Trump Assassination Attempt

[McBell]

Classy.
Great deflection too!
We've all forgotten the nonsense you were trying to push as facts.

I haven't forgotten they presented a weak arse claim about someone, who is supposedly a Secret Service Agent, had foreknowledge of the shooting and it is this alleged foreknowledge that proves they are a Secret Service Agent.

Classic tail chasing conspiracy theory.

But since they have no credibility AND I am bored, I feel it is my duty to keep feeding them in an attempt to limit the size of their bridge.

 

[Ebionite]

What happened? It’s complicated, but The Federalist’s Sean Davis breaks it down: “They kept the rooftop open, watched the shooter, kept Trump on the stage, and didn’t do a damn thing until after he had been shot. And we’re supposed to believe it was an innocent oopsie?”

Secret Service Director Blames Sloped Roof

Kim Cheatle bizarrely claimed that they didn't place agents on the rooftop used by the shooter because it was sloped.

patriotpost.us

 

[Ebionite]

I haven't forgotten they presented a weak arse claim about someone, who is supposedly a Secret Service Agent, had foreknowledge of the shooting and it is this alleged foreknowledge that proves they are a Secret Service Agent.

What part did you leave out?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I haven't forgotten they presented a weak arse claim about someone, who is supposedly a Secret Service Agent, had foreknowledge of the shooting and it is this alleged foreknowledge that proves they are a Secret Service Agent.

Classic tail chasing conspiracy theory.

But since they have no credibility AND I am bored, I feel it is my duty to keep feeding them in an attempt to limit the size of their bridge.

I hear ya!
Everything is a conspiracy with this one.

 

[Ebionite]

NEW: Soon-to-be unmasked entities bet that President Trump’s $DJT stock would plummet ONE DAY before the assassination attempt. Shorts against the Truth Social stock more than doubled from July 1 -July 12, meaning, people or large organizations were predicting that by Monday the stock would plummet, something that undoubtedly would have occurred had President Trump died in Pennsylvania. This could mean some had foreknowledge of the plot against President Trump’s life and tried to profit off the coming calamity. This also happened on 9/11, where bets were placed against the stocks of major airline companies American and United a day before the attack. An investigation showed that in both cases a single entity and a well placed insider newsletter tipped off investors to miraculously bet against the top two airlines in USA, who took a major hit after the hijackings.

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[fantome profane]

And we’re supposed to believe it was an innocent oopsie?”

Hanlon's Razor.

 

[Ebionite]

Hanlon's Razor.

... doesn't explain Secret Service foreknowledge.

https://files.catbox.moe/q5s4en.mp4

 

[fantome profane]

Soon-to-be unmasked entities bet that President Trump’s $DJT stock would plummet ONE DAY before the assassination attempt.

People make "bets" like this everyday of the week (that the stock market is open). Not evidence of anything.

... doesn't explain Secret Service foreknowledge.

https://files.catbox.moe/q5s4en.mp4

Far be it for me to disagree with "catbox.moe" but that is complete nonsense. The guy asked couple people to move to a different location. Not evidence that he knew anything in advance.

 

[Ebionite]

People make "bets" like this everyday of the week (that the stock market is open). Not evidence of anything.

You're leaving out the part about the timing in relation to the shooting.

Far be it for me to disagree with "catbox.moe" but that is complete nonsense. The guy asked couple people to move to a different location. Not evidence that he knew anything in advance.

You're leaving out the part about him keeping his head down before shots were fired.

 

[I Am Hugh]

I am against violence.

I wonder how much money he will raise off of this ("the deep state wants me dead").

So, you object to violence? You object to war? You object to corporal punishment? You object to monetizing violence or the monetization of abstinence of violence?

 

[fantome profane]

You're leaving out the part about the timing in relation to the shooting.

But that is the point, you are demonstrating the common fallacy known (somewhat ironically given the situation) as the "Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy"

Everyday people make "bets" in the stock market that something will occur that will make the stock go up or go down. One day something does happen that makes the stock go down and some people make money. That is not evidence of foreknowledge.

You're leaving out the part about him keeping his head down before shots were fired.

He was ducking his head down to not block the stage from the crowd. Not evidence.

You are inventing this huge conspiracy with no evidence to back it up.

 

[Ebionite]

But that is the point, you are demonstrating the common fallacy known (somewhat ironically given the situation) as the "Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy"

Wrong, that fallacy does not account for actual hits - in this case an unusually high level of puts right before the event.

He was ducking his head down to not block the stage from the crowd.

So you're a mind reader now? Most of the people behind the stage were standing on a raised platform, so that explanation doesn't fly.

You are inventing this huge conspiracy with no evidence to back it up.

Wrong again, I'm inventing nothing. I have posted about security failures that can't reasonably be explained by incompetence eg "sloping roofs are too dangerous for Secret Service snipers people to use".

 

[fantome profane]

You just can't convince a dedicated conspiracy theorist. It is like arguing with a flat-earther, or a creationist. They can always find a way to reject reason.

 

[We Never Know]

You just can't convince a dedicated conspiracy theorist. It is like arguing with a flat-earther, or a creationist. They can always find a way to reject reason.

The sloped roof explination is a crap excuse.
I pointed that out in post #643 and #650

The SS dropped the ball. They need to admit it instead of digging a bigger hole.

 

[Ebionite]

You just can't convince a dedicated conspiracy theorist. It is like arguing with a flat-earther, or a creationist. They can always find a way to reject reason.

I'm not the one who ignored the facts that didn't fit with his preconceptions.


Put options before a staged event are well known:

... the paper concludes that there is evidence of
unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that
is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/503645

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'm not the one who ignored the facts that didn't fit with his preconceptions.


Put options before a staged event are well known:

... the paper concludes that there is evidence of
unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that
is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/503645

Everything can't be a conspiracy.

Sometimes people just mess up. It's a human thing.

 

[Ebionite]

The sloped roof explination is a crap excuse.

Obvious crap is obvious. The point is that nobody is that stupid, not even a DEI hire.

 

[fantome profane]

Everything can't be a conspiracy.

Sometimes people just mess up. It's a human thing.

Like I said, Hanlon's Razon.

 

[Ebionite]

Like I said, Hanlon's Razon.

Repeating yourself doesn't change the fact that incompetence doesn't explain foreknowledge.

 

[We Never Know]

Repeating yourself doesn't change the fact that incompetence doesn't explain foreknowledge.

Maybe something on how/why the SS dropped the ball will come to light.


House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) today subpoenaed U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to appear at a hearing,

Comer Subpoenas Secret Service Director for Testimony on Attempted Assassination of President Trump - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

The Department of Homeland Security’s inspector general’s office will investigate the Secret Service

Homeland Security inspector general to probe Trump rally security

The shooting prompted scrutiny of the Secret Service.

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