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Trump Bashing Leaks

esmith

Veteran Member
Only when taken out of context. I could care less about lawyers doing their job back in the 70's.

They leaked that they were doing investigations on Hillary while costing her the election and any of the investigations about Russia were not disclosed. Now trump gets mad, tough, he enjoyed leaks when it wasn't him on the line.
You really are going overboard on why the Hillary lost the election aren't you. Hillary lost the election because she was a poor candidate. She took too many people for granted and only played to areas that she knew she would win.
Get over it, your going to cause yourself a nervous breakdown.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
You really are going overboard on why the Hillary lost the election aren't you. Hillary lost the election because she was a poor candidate. She took too many people for granted and only played to areas that she knew she would win.
Get over it, your going to cause yourself a nervous breakdown.
Great deflection but this is about trump which can't handle news reporting what he says.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Great deflection but this is about trump which can't handle news reporting what he says.
your the one who brought her up.....see below
Only when taken out of context. I could care less about lawyers doing their job back in the 70's.

They leaked that they were doing investigations on Hillary while costing her the election and any of the investigations about Russia were not disclosed. Now trump gets mad, tough, he enjoyed leaks when it wasn't him on the line.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The campaign exposes trumps hypocrisy in regards to leaks. I explained.
I don't think it's so clear.
Let's say that the Russkies did hack the DNC to help Trump.
Let's ignore the benefit of DNC/Hillary corruption being exposed, & just say that hacking & leaking is wrong.
Such foreign government meddling is wrong.

But leaks from within government can be seen differently, since they could represent
corruption of our government from within. There's a very real question about why the
FBI was surveilling Flynn, & whether this was proper & legal. I'm reminded of Hoover's
bending (if not breaking) the law to effect his personal political agendas.
Mike Flynn & FBI Investigation: Bureau Had No Basis for It | National Review

Moreover, we don't even know the source of the DNC/Hillary leaks (despite media contrary claims),
which could even be from within the party. And the DNC is not government....it's a corporation.

I don't know the answers.
But the hypocrisy charge should be supported better
than the simple fact that both episodes are about leaks.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
The FBI has been behaving erratically.....pro-Hillary, anti-Hillary, pro-Trump, anti-Trump.....

I think generally the services are republican. At the same time, many of them are terrified of Trump. It's not all that hard to understand.

I have a friend who works in a private intelligence firm in Washington and he was just telling me this weekend that his co-workers are joking on a daily basis about giving Trump briefings in sound bites, because he doesn't want details. A scary proposition for the services who believe having more information than the other guy is paramount.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think generally the services are republican. At the same time, many of them are terrified of Trump. It's not all that hard to understand.
An OK theory.
I have a friend who works in a private intelligence firm in Washington and he was just telling me this weekend that his co-workers are joking on a daily basis about giving Trump briefings in sound bites, because he doesn't want details. A scary proposition for the services who believe having more information than the other guy is paramount.
If they really take such an attitude, then I sense an opportunity to save some money by cutting the dead wood.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
An OK theory.

It isn't my original thought. It comes from a former intelligence analyst with 3 decades of experience. I take it as a bit more than a shot in the dark.

If they really take such an attitude, then I sense an opportunity to save some money by cutting the dead wood.

This is not normally their attitude, it is based upon the presidents disinterest in the details... So I would agree with cutting the dead wood,but we need to start at the top.
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
FALSE: Hillary Clinton Freed Child Rapist

Forget that fact that we're talking about national security leaks here and you're just side-stepping that inconvenient part. Are you going to show me how Clinton is worse at being trustworthy with classified information and national security issues or just keep side-stepping with more unrelated nonsense?
I'm talking about her being caught on a mic gloating about someone she defended.


 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
I'm talking about her being caught on a mic gloating about someone she defended.


You apparently didn't bother to read the link I posted that debunks the notion of her "gloating." You are also still dodging showing us how Clinton was even close to being worse than Trump in regards to handling classified information. Go waste someone else's time.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
The FBI has been behaving erratically.....pro-Hillary, anti-Hillary, pro-Trump, anti-Trump.....
The leaks, not the wiki stuff, from our intelligence is mainly what I am addressing. Trump didn't mind when FBI leaks fake news or when comey decided to steam roll Hillary right when people were casting early voting ballots. Now Intelligence leaks some more and he screams "foul, fake news". I'm thoroughly amused.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The leaks, not the wiki stuff, from our intelligence is mainly what I am addressing.
I wasn't referring to the Wikileaks either.
Trump didn't mind when FBI leaks fake news or when comey decided to steam roll Hillary right when people were casting early voting ballots. Now Intelligence leaks some more and he screams "foul, fake news". I'm thoroughly amused.
Did you miss my earlier rhyme?
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
You apparently didn't bother to read the link I posted that debunks the notion of her "gloating." You are also still dodging showing us how Clinton was even close to being worse than Trump in regards to handling classified information. Go waste someone else's time.
Yes, and it does not disprove my claim. Also, that website is Snopes. Snopes has a lot of shady things about it on the internet.

Also, why did Hillary Clinton have (among many other things) someone say they will sacrifice a 'chicken' to Moloch in her backyard in the Wikileaks email scandals?
 
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