"Trump falsely accuses Obama of wiretapping his phone"

[Revoltingest]

No partisan really when people in GOP are wanting a special prosecutor for the Russia stuff. Trump however is on a witch hunt, was during the election and continues after being elected.

The Democrats are the driving force behind the Evil Ivan conspiracy theory,
having created it long before Trump even won the election.
You call one a witch hunt, but not the other.
I see both worthy of investigating.
I'll add to this Pelosi's lie about meeting with Russians...why try to hide it?

 

[idav]

The Democrats are the driving force behind the Evil Ivan conspiracy theory,
having created it long before Trump even won the election.
You call one a witch hunt, but not the other.
I see both worthy of investigating.
I'll add to this Pelosi's lie about meeting with Russians...why try to hide it?

Worthy of investigation could easily be a waist of tax payer money just like the Benghazi thing driven by false allegations.

Sure Trump says his staff did no wrong nor harm yet they lied. For no good reason I suppose they just felt like like they needed to lie. Yeah right!

 

[esmith]

James Clapper, head of national intelligence until Jan 2017 noted there was no FISA warrant issued, and he was in a position to know, and expects he will be called to testify in the event of congressional hearings. Without such warrant, any tap would be illegal.

I think one should be very careful when one says something that one does not have the facts. So, let's look at what James Clapper has said.

From: Former DNI Clapper: 'I can deny' wiretap of Trump Tower

Asked again whether there was a FISA Court order to monitor Trump Tower, Clapper said, "Not to my knowledge."
Clapper said that if any wiretap like that occurred, he would "certainly hope" that he would be aware of it.
"I can't speak for other authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity," he added.

The last sentence is a CYA.

 

[idav]

The last sentence is a CYA.

Of course, if other agencies had reason to, warrants for example, then it would not necessarily be sanctioned by Obama, but he may eventually get the intel whether sanctioned by him or not.

 

[esmith]

Worthy of investigation could easily be a waist of tax payer money just like the Benghazi thing driven by false allegations.

Sure Trump says his staff did no wrong nor harm yet they lied. For no good reason I suppose they just felt like like they needed to lie. Yeah right!

Why do you say the Benghazi investigation was a waist of money.
I think a lot of information was brought forward that would have not have bee made public, other than first hand accounts of those there.
So I don't know what you are basing your assumption on. Will you accept the following article is factual or will you dismiss it.
The Benghazi Timeline, Clinton Edition

 

[esmith]

Of course, if other agencies had reason to, warrants for example, then it would not necessarily be sanctioned by Obama, but he may eventually get the intel whether sanctioned by him or not.

To play the devils advocate here. To your statement (in bold) neither could one assume that it wasn't; also maybe not "sanctioned" but maybe suggested. And when a President suggest or in a off-hand remark mentions something nothing says that a well meaning entity wouldn't do it to please the President and his chosen replacement.

Would you care to refute the below article
Trump Wiretap Roundup: Suddenly A Lot Of People Think the Wiretap Happened (VIDEO) | RedState

 

[Sonofason]

But if done illegally, it's possible.
As Snowden showed us, things which shouldn't be done have been done.

Indeed, dishonest people tend to remain dishonest.

 

[idav]

Why do you say the Benghazi investigation was a waist of money.
I think a lot of information was brought forward that would have not have bee made public, other than first hand accounts of those there.
So I don't know what you are basing your assumption on. Will you accept the following article is factual or will you dismiss it.
The Benghazi Timeline, Clinton Edition

I don't see anything wrong with the article, was there something you wanted to point out?

7.8 millions dollars to find no wrongdoing by the Obama administration or CIA.
House Benghazi committee files final report and shuts down

“Republicans voted on this partisan report five months ago, but delayed filing it and completing the committee until after the election,” Cummings said. “Republicans promised a process that was fair and bipartisan, but the American people got exactly the opposite.”

 

[idav]

To play the devils advocate here. To your statement (in bold) neither could one assume that it wasn't; also maybe not "sanctioned" but maybe suggested. And when a President suggest or in a off-hand remark mentions something nothing says that a well meaning entity wouldn't do it to please the President and his chosen replacement.

Would you care to refute the below article
Trump Wiretap Roundup: Suddenly A Lot Of People Think the Wiretap Happened (VIDEO) | RedState

Thats a pretty big stretch to suggest people will just go wiretapping places for nothing. Haven't you heard what they are doing with the Patriot Act, wiretapping seems hugely unnecessary with Uncle Sam watching all of us.

Do I dispute the fake news gets people believing, no doubt, all because of Brietbart said some conspiracy theory about it.

Mr. Trump’s demand for a congressional investigation appears to be based, at least in part, on unproved claims by Breitbart News and conservative talk radio hosts that secret warrants were issued authorizing the tapping of the phones of Mr. Trump and his aides at Trump Tower in New York.

Trump wants Congress to probe Obama wiretapping him rumor… | Politicaldog101.Com

 

[esmith]

I don't see anything wrong with the article, was there something you wanted to point out?

7.8 millions dollars to find no wrongdoing by the Obama administration or CIA.
House Benghazi committee files final report and shuts down

Well, for one it wasn't caused by a stupid video as the Obama administration claimed it was. Do you think this would have came to light if there hadn't been an investigation. Do you think maybe the State Dept realized that their security plans for sites wasn't as good as it should have been. Do you think we would have learned that the annex was a CIA operation. That the Ambassador had requested additional security and was denied. That the military very possibly screwed-the-pooch because of not-military involvement in the decision making? I could go on, but it would fall on death ears.

 

[esmith]

Thats a pretty big stretch to suggest people will just go wiretapping places for nothing. Haven't you heard what they are doing with the Patriot Act, wiretapping seems hugely unnecessary with Uncle Sam watching all of us.

Do I dispute the fake news gets people believing, no doubt, all because of Brietbart said some conspiracy theory about it.


Trump wants Congress to probe Obama wiretapping him rumor… | Politicaldog101.Com

The article I linked was not a Briebart article.

Of course these all could be "you want to play hardball? I'll show you hardball".

 

[idav]

The article I linked was not a Briebart article.

I know, you cited Redstate.

Well, for one it wasn't caused by a stupid video as the Obama administration claimed it was. Do you think this would have came to light if there hadn't been an investigation. Do you think maybe the State Dept realized that their security plans for sites wasn't as good as it should have been. Do you think we would have learned that the annex was a CIA operation. That the Ambassador had requested additional security and was denied. That the military very possibly screwed-the-pooch because of not-military involvement in the decision making? I could go on, but it would fall on death ears.

When a Republican majority finds no wrong doing, its a waist of time and taxpayer money.

 

[Sonofason]

Can someone please explain what "death ears" are?

 

[idav]

Can someone please explain what "death ears" are?

I'm pretty sure he meant deaf ears.

Edit corrected spelling

 

[Revoltingest]

No partisan really when people in GOP are wanting a special prosecutor for the Russia stuff. Trump however is on a witch hunt, was during the election and continues after being elected.

One could say the Dems are on a witch hunt too.
So your barb really has no bearing on the issue.
Moreover, the Dems have far greater volume & history.
In the news....
Former Bush attorney general: Trump right that there was surveillance

 

[idav]

One could say the Dems are on a witch hunt too.
So your barb really has no bearing on the issue.
Moreover, the Dems have far greater volume & history.
In the news....
Former Bush attorney general: Trump right that there was surveillance

Its worse than a witch hunt, Trump wants them probed!
Trump wants congressional probe of claims on Obama, won't comment further

Is a politician allowed to probe for being probed?

 

[Revoltingest]

Its worse than a witch hunt, Trump wants them probed!
Trump wants congressional probe of claims on Obama, won't comment further
Is a politician allowed to probe for being probed?

They sure are.
@Quetzal is getting excited (wrong kind of probing).

 

[oldbadger]

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Yeah.....
I thought that you called me a foreigner and told me to call Former-President Obama by that title?
I have seen posts of yours which call him Obama, quite a lot.
It's time to tell you that in future I will call him ex-President Obama which I never thought was bad or wrong.

I think he was one of the best US Presidents ever, by the way.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Why do I keep reading the OP as "worshiping his phone"? Lol.

 

[pearl]

I think one should be very careful when one says something that one does not have the facts. So, let's look at what James Clapper has said.

What I posted was from watching 'meet the press' this am. What is your point? Clapper denied the tap, and the warrant, and was in a position to know about such a warrant.