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Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I would suggest Trump to move to Europe. To buy some villa in Tuscany, so his son and his wife can be close to Slovenia.
Unfortunately the United States have become unlivable for the heterosexual WASP.

I also heard that some Americans moved to Hungary. Because of that.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Unfortunately the United States have become unlivable for the heterosexual WASP.
No, it's that they've had to learn they must share society with all us non-WASPs amd they aren't they aren't happy about it.
But oh well. Thise who've cling to that are usually pieces if **** anyways.
But I can assure you, straight whites have nothing to fear or worry about due to being straight and white. Myself, I've gotten grief for just about everything except being white.
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
But it's true...there is a feminist lobby that targets the heterosexual WASP in the US.

Look, I don't know that this is true, but it could be true.
Which will allow millions to reject the verdict of the trial regardless of whether it is true or not.
The only evidence I saw was testimony. A verdict means the jury either believed the plaintiff or the defendant more.

The rest of us are left to our biases of what we want to believe. Regardless the outcome of the trial is what it is. Trump will have to deal with it. The only thing I'm sure of is the story is not over. No doubt there will be appeals. Maybe the next judge or jury will believe differently, or not.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I would suggest Trump to move to Europe. To buy some villa in Tuscany, so his son and his wife can be close to Slovenia.
Unfortunately the United States have become unlivable for the heterosexual WASP.

I also heard that some Americans moved to Hungary. Because of that.

I'm fine. As long as you are not famous enough or wealthy enough for anyone to care about.
And of course as long as I don't go about actually raping or committing other crimes.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Look, I don't know that this is true, but it could be true.
Which will allow millions to reject the verdict of the trial regardless of whether it is true or not.
The only evidence I saw was testimony. A verdict means the jury either believed the plaintiff or the defendant more.

The rest of us are left to our biases of what we want to believe. Regardless the outcome of the trial is what it is. Trump will have to deal with it. The only thing I'm sure of is the story is not over. No doubt there will be appeals. Maybe the next judge or jury will believe differently, or not.
Juridically, the onus is on the victim.
Did she prove she was raped 27 years ago?
She hasn't, as far as I am concerned and according to the Roman Law judicial systems.

It's like I said: "Leonardo Di Caprio raped me, some years ago, and the onus is on him, to prove it didn't happened".

It's insane. It's more than insane. It's twisted and sick.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Juridically, the onus is on the victim.
Did she prove she was raped 27 years ago?
She hasn't, as far as I am concerned and according to the Roman Law judicial systems.

It's like I said: "Leonardo Di Caprio raped me, some years ago, and the onus is on him, to prove it didn't happened".

It's insane. It's more than insane. It's twisted and sick.
So you are going to be wailing about this jury or that jury being biased or whatever. Can't accept a result? :rolleyes:
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So you are going to be wailing about this jury or that jury being biased or whatever. Can't accept a result? :rolleyes:

No...I am pretty happy that in our Napoleonic juridic system, such delicate decisions are not entrusted to juries, whose members have never opened a law book in their own lives.
;)
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Wrongful pursuit of war isn't a domestic crime.
But Trump's predilection for war should be a
better known issue. Even Republicans should
be concerned by his thoughtless war lust.
He knows wars get politicians elected. And then keep them in office. And he knows this because republicans have been doing it for decades.

Also, I have seen no great howl from the democrats about Trumps sexual assault. And they do seem to be quite aware of the many threats he and his republican cohorts pose to the nation and the world.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I have always been told that NYC was the magical city of fashion, class, creativity, in the eighties.
Made great by great entrepreneurs like Trump and his wife Ivana.

After Nine Eleven and Obama Hussein's presidency, NYC has become a woke cesspool.
I've heard that Italy reeks of open sewage, people urinate and defecate in the street, hygiene and sanitation is bad overall, businesses swindle and overcharge, the pizza is actually bland and boring despite being it's place of origin, Italian women become mail order brides to escape, and that tourists are constantly groped or pick-pocketed by locals.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I've heard that Italy reeks of open sewage, people urinate and defecate in the street, hygiene and sanitation is bad overall, businesses swindle and overcharge, the pizza is actually bland and boring despite being it's place of origin, Italian women become mail order brides to escape, and that tourists are constantly groped or pick-pocketed by locals.
Those things are all all untrue.
It is a paradise. Especially in Spring.

We are a civilized country...we have a State that takes care of people.
Unlike the US Government who lets the poor die of cancer because they can't afford surgery.

Horrific.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I would suggest Trump to move to Europe.
Europeans don't like rapists, either. At least the ones that are civilized.

Unfortunately the United States have become unlivable for the heterosexual WASP.
Weird. Why haven't any actual Americans witnessed this? Most of those in power are strait white Christian males.
What makes it "unlivable"? Being held to standards and accountability?

I also heard that some Americans moved to Hungary. Because of that.
No you haven't. Hungary out of all of Europe? If you have to lie to support your narrative, then your narrative is trash, son.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Those things are all all untrue.
I'm just playing the same dumb game you are.

It is a paradise. Especially in Spring.

We are a civilized country...we have a State that takes care of people.
Unlike the US Government who lets the poor die of cancer because they can't afford surgery.

Horrific.
Yes, the US healthcare system is indeed horrific.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Europeans don't like rapists, either. At least the ones that are civilized.
I would like to believe he is a rapist.

It's an absurd narrative to me, because in Italy all actresses and models throw themselves at billionaires.
There are many gold-diggers among them, I have never denied it.

So I think it's impossible that in the US the situation is any different.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Europeans don't like rapists, either. At least the ones that are civilized.


Weird. Why haven't any actual Americans witnessed this? Most of those in power are strait white Christian males.
What makes it "unlivable"? Being held to standards and accountability?


No you haven't. Hungary out of all of Europe? If you have to lie to support your narrative, then your narrative is trash, son.
With all due respect...wouldn't it better if he moved to Europe?

Since he is a fascist and a pig...the American politics would be better without him...
 
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ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
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Juridically, the onus is on the victim.
Did she prove she was raped 27 years ago?
Who's not paying attention?

The jury decided the rape allegation was not proved. They found that he had committed sexual assault and defamation. As this was a civil case, that basically means that they thought it more likely than not based on the evidence they saw.

Based on his shameful behaviour behaviour that is right out in the open and clear for all to see, I find this entirely credible and totally in character.
 
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