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Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
How old are you?

Ignore list.

You should show more respect to your elders .. than introducing yourself with the finger ?! but if I may ask .. what was it that Triggered this response .. I know some folks are sensitive about the Trump Landslide .. my apologies if sensitive toes were stepped on in advertantly :)
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
didn't distort anything .. Biden continued to send weapons to terrorists in violation of US Law ..
What Law? The military aid to Israel is mandated by Congress. Trump cannot change that.
and of course Biden has control over this and my English is far better than yours and knowledge of logical fallacy .. demonstrated by you fallaciously complaining about English.

Now .. perhaps try and address the topic rather than hoping personal invective might be an argument for something and tell us who this "Raving Lunatic" - that supports the Holocaust is ?
The fact that Trump is a raving lunatic has nothing to with the Holocaust issue. Like all Presidents and Congresses since the formation of the State of Israel have unaniously support military aid to Israel.
You have things backwards. I am not the one that supports the Holocaust in Gaza via support for Genocide Joe -- perhaps you need look in the mirror and take log out of own eye :)
Does not relect your antagonistic negative name calling of Joe Biden. If Holocaust Joe is OK Why not Holocaust Donald, or Holocaust Reagan, or Holocaust Obama?
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
What Law? The military aid to Israel is mandated by Congress. Trump cannot change that.

The fact that Trump is a raving lunatic has nothing to with the Holocaust issue. Like all Presidents and Congresses since the formation of the State of Israel have unaniously support military aid to Israel.

Does not relect your antagonistic negative name calling of Joe Biden. If Holocaust Joe is OK Why not Holocaust Donald, or Holocaust Reagan, or Holocaust Obama?

look .. and try to understand .. no one said Trump could change military aid passed by Congress ? so why are you pretending someone did ?

Look - Trump is not the President that is guilty of supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. he is not the one who was vice president called for Crimes against Humanity by the ICC .. nor did he preside over the arming .. supporting . supplying Al Qaeda and Islamist Jihadist terrorist spawn committing mass Genocide .. terror the likes of which not seen since the middle ages .

wasn't Trump the Adolf Hitler in the Room .. that makes the woke Blue Cancel crew croon

Obama was right hand in hand with Genocide Joe .. supports the Holocaust as far as we know .. Rotten Ronne was scum of the land many a genocide done at his hand .. but not Trump .. what more of a history lesson did you need ? and why did you not know these things ?

Rotten Ronnie .. and Dirty Daddy Bush .. .. this is not a Partisan blindness award .. this is History.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Trump was doing OK until he mentioned that cats and dogs were being eaten by people in Springfield, Ohio. After that he's been ranting an raving incoherent stream of consciousness nonsense, lying about one thing or another. Trump can't maintain a line of thought. I almost feel bad for him.

Harris is doing quite well in hitting Trump where it hurts. Trump's face is showing it is working. Trump is trying to hit back but he has nothing.
:D
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
look .. and try to understand .. no one said Trump could change military aid passed by Congress ? so why are you pretending someone did ?
You are pretending Biden can change the aid to Israel passed by Congress,
Look - Trump is not the President that is guilty of supporting the Gaza Holocaust ..
The military aid at the time is mandated by Congress with the support of the American people .. Biden could not change that. Almost all of the military ais arrived before the Hamas War, and the rest was already in the pipeline,
he is not the one who was vice president called for Crimes against Humanity by the ICC .. nor did he preside over the arming .. supporting . supplying Al Qaeda and Islamist Jihadist terrorist spawn committing mass Genocide .. terror the likes of which not seen since the middle ages .
Trump as well as all the Presidents and Congresses have supported military aid to Israel
 
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Sargonski

Well-Known Member
You are pretending Biden can change the aid to Israel passed by Congress,

No Im not pretending Biden can change aid passed by Congress. This is very pathetic that you can do nothing but strawman fallacy - false accusation of silly things do deflect from the unescapable fact that Biden presided over the Holocaust in Gaza .. Got his Crimes against humanity stripe in Yemen .. his Genocide Patch in Syria .. where the 911 Terrorist group turned from foe into friend .. armed .. supplied .. supported . Don't forget Benghazi ..Hillary got her hands dirty on that one .. lied to congress .. speeding arms to Terrorists in Syria.

How is it you didn't know about Rotten Ronnie ? Dirty deeds with Daddy Bush .. then came Tricky Dick and now the Daughter .. the apple falls not far from the Tree .. just on the other side of the fence overwhich the tree branch hangs.

Was funny how Genocide Joe was the only one smiling while congratulating Donald .. reflecting on the Loss. Did you catch that one ShunyD :)
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
No Im not pretending Biden can change aid passed by Congress.
Yes you are!!!!
This is very pathetic that you can do nothing but strawman fallacy -
No fallacies involved here. Your pathetic rants are the problem avoiding the simple facts and history for the basis of military aid to Israel.
false accusation of silly things do deflect from the unescapable fact that Biden presided over the Holocaust in Gaza .. Got his Crimes against humanity stripe in Yemen .. his Genocide Patch in Syria .. where the 911 Terrorist group turned from foe into friend .. armed .. supplied .. supported . Don't forget Benghazi ..Hillary got her hands dirty on that one .. lied to congress .. speeding arms to Terrorists in Syria.
It is your problem of making false accusations against Biden that applies to all Presidents and Congresses since Israel became a nation
How is it you didn't know about Rotten Ronnie ? Dirty deeds with Daddy Bush .. then came Tricky Dick and now the Daughter .. the apple falls not far from the Tree .. just on the other side of the fence overwhich the tree branch hangs.
Is it the case that you are condemning all the Presidents and Congresses since Israel became a nation including Trump.?

It is false that Biden can determine the military aid to Israel on his own,
Was funny how Genocide Joe was the only one smiling while congratulating Donald .. reflecting on the Loss. Did you catch that one ShunyD :)
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
You are pretending Biden can change the aid to Israel passed by Congress,
You are pretending Biden could have done nothing else!:rolleyes:

Biden slept at the helm for the entire duration of his presidency. He didn't even pick up the phone and use his influence to stop the killings. A man in that position had responsibilities to fight for a solution. Biden should have ran around to save lives!

"With greater power comes great responsibilities."

In response to one day's barbaric attack - if someone (Bibi) (in the false pretense of defense) systematically tries to wipe out or displace- an entire population including women, babies and children and someone stronger (Biden) does nothing to intervene or even attempt to use his powers or influence then he should not be off the hook from the blame. IMO.

If he believes in the judgment day - he should **** in his pants. But I am sure he believes Jesus died for his sins.

But here is the news for him...
Sin of a sinner (Bibi) will be measured in direct proportion to the damage his/her act inflicts or causes and it will be in mutual correlation to the action or inaction of any (so-called) bystanders (Biden) or supporters who saw the crime but did not try to intervene or stop it and thus allowed the crime to do greater damage. IMO

And no! Jesus did not die to erase his sins! And [1 Samuel 15:3] is a later addition and not from God. IMO
God would not tell you to kill babies 400 years later for the crimes of their great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers.

If Biden is an atheist and does not believe in afterlife - then I have no problem if he is allowed to head into "nothingness".
If God can create - God can un-create!

So, all the Atheists out there - you have nothing to fear - a place called "nothingness" is there! IMO;)
 
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BrightShadow

Active Member

A Rhino's skin is so thick - if you tickle a Rhino - it laughs after 3 day.:D

Did you just wake up and saw this? Debate is old news.
Check the rest of the news and see who had the last laugh!;)

On a positive note - it is good to laugh at mini jokes - it keeps you out of depression.
But look at the bigger picture! Between Kamala and Trump - the right person who could keep America out of depression - won!
V + V = VV
victory + 2nd victory = win for America!
A win 4U2;)
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Yes you are!!!!


It is false that Biden can determine the military aid to Israel on his own,

You need to stop projecting made up positions on to others .. this is called Strawman Fallacy .. or just plain old false accusation .. because you have no argument and can do nothing but fallacy.

I did not say that Biden can alter a spending package passed by congress. nor that Biden can pass a spending Bill on his own. The President does however have something called "Veto Power" -- and thus can veto support for the Gaza Holocaust..

but, why would a self avowed Zionist block bombs being used for the cleansing of the Land .. "from the River to the Sea - Israeli Sovereignty " states the Zionist Charter ..

It is the intent to cleanse the land factor that distinguishes between "Genocide" .. and regular old War Crimes - Crimes against humanity. As the Irish delegation to the UN sayeth "The Hague is too good for Bibi" .. but, its good enough for Genocide Joe Right !
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
No Im not pretending Biden can change aid passed by Congress. This is very pathetic that you can do nothing but strawman fallacy - false accusation of silly things do deflect from the unescapable fact that Biden presided over the Holocaust in Gaza .. Got his Crimes against humanity stripe in Yemen .. his Genocide Patch in Syria .. where the 911 Terrorist group turned from foe into friend .. armed .. supplied .. supported . Don't forget Benghazi ..Hillary got her hands dirty on that one .. lied to congress .. speeding arms to Terrorists in Syria.

How is it you didn't know about Rotten Ronnie ? Dirty deeds with Daddy Bush .. then came Tricky Dick and now the Daughter .. the apple falls not far from the Tree .. just on the other side of the fence overwhich the tree branch hangs.

Was funny how Genocide Joe was the only one smiling while congratulating Donald .. reflecting on the Loss. Did you catch that one ShunyD :)
You have failed to demonstrate how Biden can change the Laws and funding previously passed by Congress and every Congress and President prior to Biden, Virtually almost all the weapons from the USA arrived before the Hamas War.

Trump has firmly taken the stance of a hardline in support of Israel.

Still waiting.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
You have failed to demonstrate how Biden can change the Laws and funding previously passed by Congress and every Congress and President prior to Biden, Virtually almost all the weapons from the USA arrived before the Hamas War.

Trump has firmly taken the stance of a hardline in support of Israel.

Still waiting.

I never said Biden could change laws and funding previously passed by Congress .. and I told you this before .. so why do you continue with this strawman fallacy. Genocide Joe is resonsible for aiding and abetting the Gaza Holocaust .. regardless of your strawman fallacy and false claim that "Virtually almost all the weapons" arrived before the war .. and fallacious claim that this would matter even if false claim was true.

Trump on the other hand has nothing to do with the Gaza Holocaust .... it did not happen on his watch .. .. it is not Trump running cover at the UN for Israel .. that would be Genocide Joe .. .. the self professed Zionist .. supporting the Zionist Charter .. far more guilty than the Crimes against humanity in Yemen for which Biden has already been judged by the ICC as complicit .. and full on guilt of Genocide and crimes against humanity in Syria .. so its not like this is Joe's first Rodeo ..
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I never said Biden could change laws and funding previously passed by Congress .. and I told you this before .. so why do you continue with this strawman fallacy. Genocide Joe is responsible for aiding and abetting the Gaza Holocaust .. regardless of your strawman fallacy and false claim that "Virtually almost all the weapons" arrived before the war .. and fallacious claim that this would matter even if false claim was true.

The bold aboveclealry indicates you believe Biden could change the weapons delivery mandated by Congress.
It is true almost all the weapons for the war were already in Israel. Biden delayed but could not stop some deliveries during the war.
Trump on the other hand has nothing to do with the Gaza Holocaust
Yes he does he sully supported arming Israel during his Presidency and has clearly indicated he fully supports Israel unconditionally now in all its goals in the war in Gaza
.... it did not happen on his watch .. ..
No President could have prevented the Gaza war It was that act of Hamas and Israel. Trumps actions during his administration supported arming Israel, and his statements as cited indicates he fully supports Israel ONLY
it is not Trump running cover at the UN for Israel .. that would be Genocide Joe .. .. the self professed Zionist .. supporting the Zionist Charter .. far more guilty than the Crimes against humanity in Yemen for which Biden has already been judged by the ICC as complicit .. and full on guilt of Genocide and crimes against humanity in Syria .. so its not like this is Joe's first Rodeo ..
How could Biden Prevent the Hamas invasion of Israel?

How could Biden prevent the Israel response invading Gaza?

Trump gave Israel 100% support in his Presidency and stated now he supports Israel 100% in the Gaza war.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
You are pretending Biden could have done nothing else!:rolleyes:

Biden slept at the helm for the entire duration of his presidency. He didn't even pick up the phone and use his influence to stop the killings. A man in that position had responsibilities to fight for a solution. Biden should have ran around to save lives!

"With greater power comes great responsibilities."

In response to one day's barbaric attack - if someone (Bibi) (in the false pretense of defense) systematically tries to wipe out or displace- an entire population including women, babies and children and someone stronger (Biden) does nothing to intervene or even attempt to use his powers or influence then he should not be off the hook from the blame. IMO.

If he believes in the judgment day - he should **** in his pants. But I am sure he believes Jesus died for his sins.

But here is the news for him...
Sin of a sinner (Bibi) will be measured in direct proportion to the damage his/her act inflicts or causes and it will be in mutual correlation to the action or inaction of any (so-called) bystanders (Biden) or supporters who saw the crime but did not try to intervene or stop it and thus allowed the crime to do greater damage. IMO

And no! Jesus did not die to erase his sins! And [1 Samuel 15:3] is a later addition and not from God. IMO
God would not tell you to kill babies 400 years later for the crimes of their great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers.

If Biden is an atheist and does not believe in afterlife - then I have no problem if he is allowed to head into "nothingness".
If God can create - God can un-create!

So, all the Atheists out there - you have nothing to fear - a place called "nothingness" is there! IMO;)
How could Biden Prevent the Hamas invasion of Israel?

How could Biden prevent the Israel response invading Gaza?

Trump gave Israel 100% support in his Presidency and stated now he supports Israel 100% in the Gaza war.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
The bold aboveclealry indicates you believe Biden could change the weapons delivery mandated by Congress.
"Genocide Joe is responsible for aiding and abetting the Gaza Holocaust .."

Sorry mate -- Stating that Biden is responsible for aiding and abetting the Gaza Holocaust ... does not mean I believe Biden can change previous weapons deliveries .. .. this is ridiculous strawan fallacy . I never said nor inferred any such thing by the above comment. Congressional arms sales to Israel .. prior to the OCT 7 .. over a year ago .. have absolutely nothing to do with US Navel Power helping Israel fight the war against the Palestinians . shooting down missiles to help the Iron Dome .. giving cover at the UN and the ICC.

Your comment above about my beliefs "clearly indicates" a low aptitude in the game .. "which one is not like the other" .. and lack of understanding of Non Sequitur fallacy "A does not follow from B" .. so It does not follow that because Genocide Joe is guilty of supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. that Joe has changed some weapons delivery mandate from over a year ago.

Let us hope Joe abides by this latest mandate to end money and arms should Bibi not allow humanitarian aid into Gaza .. I believe the 1 month time limit is up .. Right !
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
"Genocide Joe is responsible for aiding and abetting the Gaza Holocaust .."

Sorry mate -- Stating that Biden is responsible for aiding and abetting the Gaza Holocaust ... does not mean I believe Biden can change previous weapons deliveries .. .. this is ridiculous strawan fallacy . I never said nor inferred any such thing by the above comment. Congressional arms sales to Israel .. prior to the OCT 7 .. over a year ago .. have absolutely nothing to do with US Navel Power helping Israel fight the war against the Palestinians . shooting down missiles to help the Iron Dome .. giving cover at the UN and the ICC.

Your comment above about my beliefs "clearly indicates" a low aptitude in the game .. "which one is not like the other" .. and lack of understanding of Non Sequitur fallacy "A does not follow from B" .. so It does not follow that because Genocide Joe is guilty of supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. that Joe has changed some weapons delivery mandate from over a year ago.

Let us hope Joe abides by this latest mandate to end money and arms should Bibi not allow humanitarian aid into Gaza .. I believe the 1 month time limit is up .. Right !
Dis not answer the questions. Misuse of fallacies to justify and radical extreme right agenda. You are not being honest concerning the facts of the Hamas War.

There is absolutely no evidence US navel forces assisted Israel or fired one shot in the Gaza War,

How could Biden Prevent the Hamas invasion of Israel?

How could Biden prevent the Israel response invading Gaza?

Trump gave Israel 100% support in his Presidency and stated now he supports Israel 100% in the Gaza war.

Stil waiting . . .
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Dis not answer the questions. Misuse of fallacies to justify and radical extreme right agenda. You are not being honest concerning the facts of the Hamas War.

There is absolutely no evidence US navel forces assisted Israel or fired one shot in the Gaza War,

How could Biden Prevent the Hamas invasion of Israel?

How could Biden prevent the Israel response invading Gaza?

Trump gave Israel 100% support in his Presidency and stated now he supports Israel 100% in the Gaza war.

Stil waiting . . .

Your comment above about my beliefs is both strawman and Non Sequitur fallacy "A does not follow from B"

It does not follow that because Genocide Joe is guilty of supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. that Joe has changed some weapons delivery mandate by congress from over a year ago.

This is a misuse of fallacy .. but on your part not mine .. and your other questions follow along the same fallacy .. Biden not preventing the Hamas invasion .. does not change the fact that he is guilty in aiding and supporting the Gaza Holocaust for the reasons previously discussed "Naval Aid" - "UN Cover" and more .. nor does going on about Trumps failings change the fact that Genocide Joe is guilty of Crimes against Humanity .. aiding and supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. including the illegal supply of weapons that you seem to be confused about .. those authorized subsequent to the initiation of the Holocaust .. the Ethnic Cleansing of the Land .. as per the Zionist Charter .. "from the River to the Sea" - Biden a declared Zionist .. providing mens rea .. in addition to actus rea .. to the charge in the Hague .. which is where he should be .. if he were not so sleepy .. you see :)
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Your comment above about my beliefs is both strawman and Non Sequitur fallacy "A does not follow from B"

It does not follow that because Genocide Joe is guilty of supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. that Joe has changed some weapons delivery mandate by congress from over a year ago.

This is a misuse of fallacy .. but on your part not mine .. and your other questions follow along the same fallacy .. Biden not preventing the Hamas invasion .. does not change the fact that he is guilty in aiding and supporting the Gaza Holocaust for the reasons previously discussed "Naval Aid" - "UN Cover" and more .. nor does going on about Trumps failings change the fact that Genocide Joe is guilty of Crimes against Humanity .. aiding and supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. including the illegal supply of weapons that you seem to be confused about .. those authorized subsequent to the initiation of the Holocaust .. the Ethnic Cleansing of the Land .. as per the Zionist Charter .. "from the River to the Sea" - Biden a declared Zionist .. providing mens rea .. in addition to actus rea .. to the charge in the Hague .. which is where he should be .. if he were not so sleepy .. you see :)
You cannot rely on your dishonest terrible use of fallacies to justify an extreme biased right wing argument

You failed to answer my questions.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
You cannot rely on your dishonest terrible use of fallacies to justify an extreme biased right wing argument

You failed to answer my questions.

Let us not be projecting your failings onto me shunyD -- your questions were answered , fallacies addressed position crucified. Genocide Joe is not guilty of crimes against humanity on the basis of congressional bills passed prior to to the War .. that is not how things work ..is not what was stated. Strawman fallacy, Ad Hom Fallacy false assertions and now projection is not support for your unsupported claim.

Now .. enough of the personal invective and false accusation and respond to the Topic -- which is Genocide Joe .. and his latest complicity on a Holocaust .. in violation of US Law . now past the 30 day deadline but fails to act .. on legislation congress has passed in order to continue support for the Gaza Holocaust .. How about that ShunyD .. GI-Joe is Guilty as charged .. thats how it is you see !? :)
 
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