Trump nominates pseudo-science promoter Dr. Oz

[BrightShadow]

All those against Dr. Oz.
I hear you! I hear your concern.

Some of Trump's picks are folks who would be excited to work for the country and not sleep at work and do nothing like what we saw in Biden's administration. Did you see what happened at the borders while Alejandro Mayorkas and Kamala quietly watched?

Most traditional politicians are bought and paid for - by the establishment.

Some of the ones Trump has picked - have a reputation to worry about and would rather not do anything to jeopardize it. They have a fanbase. Sometimes that keeps you in check.

If any of these picks do a great job - they would quickly reach recognition and potentially run for the oval office in 4-8 years time or even beyond.
Dems are shaking in their boots. They may not see a pathway to return to the White house, the 'House' or the Senate - anytime soon.
Dems are done!

It is better for them to go fishing than dream about a return in any significant way.

I am hopeful about the picks. Some of them are open books.
Unlike Dems and their Kamala, who rid themselves in office.
We knew nothing about Kamala until a few months ago and even once in the spotlight - when she needed to show what she was all about - she effectively hid herself even better by not giving any tough interviews at all.

You love when people hide their true self - doncha?

You are talking about Dr. Oz because he is an open book.
Do you even know Kamala lied about her grandmother in her book? Watch Candace Owens. Candace did her research and spoke with her paternal family members.

 

[Revoltingest]

All those against Dr. Oz.
I hear you! I hear your concern.

Are you concerned about Oz's
advocating astrology as a
medical tool?

 

[SkepticThinker]

The solution is to have single occupancy bathrooms that anyone can use as well as mens and womens bathrooms. I am sure they have these. Women are not comfortable having transwomen in womens bathrooms. I think that is understandable. We should accommodate trans people, but just not in womens bathrooms.

I'm a woman and I'm perfectly comfortable having transwomen in the bathroom with me. Let's face facts, we've probably already done so without our knowledge on a few occasions. I've done so knowingly, on more than one occasion. I have no problem sharing a washroom with a transwoman and I have and will continue to do so. What's the big fear, exactly?

What's understandable about not wanting them there, exactly? And what's understandable in the particular situation under discussion?
Should this transwoman - who identifies and presents as a woman - be using the men's room? That's supposed to be the more acceptable option, how?

By the way, women's washrooms already have private stalls. Not sure if men are aware of this.

 

[SkepticThinker]

All those against Dr. Oz.
I hear you! I hear your concern.

Some of Trump's picks are folks who would be excited to work for the country and not sleep at work and do nothing like what we saw in Biden's administration. Did you see what happened at the borders while Alejandro Mayorkas and Kamala quietly watched?

Most traditional politicians are bought and paid for - by the establishment.

Some of the ones Trump has picked - have a reputation to worry about and would rather not do anything to jeopardize it. They have a fanbase. Sometimes that keeps you in check.

If any of these picks do a great job - they would quickly reach recognition and potentially run for the oval office in 4-8 years time or even beyond.
Dems are shaking in their boots. They may not see a pathway to return to the White house, the 'House' or the Senate - anytime soon.
Dems are done!

It is better for them to go fishing than dream about a return in any significant way.

I am hopeful about the picks. Some of them are open books.
Unlike Dems and their Kamala, who rid themselves in office.
We knew nothing about Kamala until a few months ago and even once in the spotlight - when she needed to show what she was all about - she effectively hid herself even better by not giving any tough interviews at all.

You love when people hide their true self - doncha?

You are talking about Dr. Oz because he is an open book.
Do you even know Kamala lied about her grandmother in her book? Watch Candace Owens. Candace did her research and spoke with her paternal family members.

We're talking about Dr. Oz because he was a TV celebrity that Trump thinks will be loyal to him.

 

[Kathryn]

I am a woman. If a transsexual woman who I don't even know is transexual is in my bathroom, I do not care one iota. But if a woman who sometimes identifies as a woman and sometimes identifies as a man, who I know is a transexual, is in there, I don't want him/her in there. Most women do more in a bathroom than just use the toilet.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

This only applies to hate speech. And it is a response when citizens are harmed. That is the role of a civil society managing itself. No doubt hate groups want to get away with their anti-social activities, but that serves no vurpose for a secure and safe society.

No, it was also applied to misinformation and true information that was censored such as the Russian collusion and hunter laptop hoaxes.

Because anarchy doesn't work. Social norms and rules are things all societies through history used to maintain order and stability. You are willing to complain only about the governed wanting a safe society against right wing threats. If the left started threatening anyone with a MAGA hat or bumper sticker with death you would surely want the government to crack down. But the left tends to be more civil that the right, so it doesn't happen, and you only have your side's activity to use as "rights to defend". Sorry, but there are no absolute rights. The right to threaten others is limited by the victim's right to feel safe.

I never defended a right to threaten anyone. See above. And as far as the left goes, look on X, there are lots of people advocating to assasinate Trump, leaving their husbands and ending relationships etc. all because people voted for Trump, so the people on the left are more civil has no merit, also remember the left burning down cities in 2020?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

They're uncomfortable with the idea presented to them.
But when they don't know the woman in the same lav
is trans, they don't care. This is the norm.

So what, It does not matter if they know or not, they are not comfortable with a man in the women's bathroom. This used to be common logic until the loony left got involved.

 

[fantome profane]

You survived one Trump run, you will survive this one.

Not everyone did. Not everyone will.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

There are many neutral bathrooms in public buildings. And bathrooms already have stalls that offer privacy. The whole protest against trans people is invented.


Really? Where is the data? I doubt the number is high, and largely ideological. The right seems to be the party of intolerance and complaint.


The only viable complaint would be from men who have open urinals. But bathrooms are built with stalls for privacy, so there’s no justification to complain except ideological intolerance.

Oh ok, just disregard their safety concerns and call them bigots. Got it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

So what, It does not matter if they know or not, they are not comfortable with a man in the women's bathroom. This used to be common logic until the loony left got involved.

Oopsy, you changed transwoman to man.

 

[Kathryn]

Are you concerned about Oz's
advocating astrology as a
medical tool?

I believe that democrats are more likely to believe that astrology is a science than republicans.

Are Democrats more likely to believe Astrology is a science?

In an answer on politics.SE, a Northwestern University study was highlighted, whose main findings included: more Democrats than Republicans think astrology is scientific Using Fisher’s Exact Test,

skeptics.stackexchange.com

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I'm a woman and I'm perfectly comfortable having transwomen in the bathroom with me. Let's face facts, we've probably already done so with our knowledge on a few occasions. I've done so knowingly, on more than one occasion. I have no problem sharing a washroom with a transwoman and I have and will continue to do so. What's the big fear, exactly?

That is you, do you care about the women that have an issue with it?

What's understandable about not wanting them there, exactly? And what's understandable in the particular situation under discussion?
Should this transwoman - who identifies and presents as a woman - be using the men's room? That's supposed to be the more acceptable option, how?

Most places now have gender neutral bathrooms, single occupancy. Why is this not an acceptable option? Wouldn't the trans person feel more safe as well?

By the way, women's washrooms already have private stalls. Not sure if men are aware of this.

Yes, we are aware.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Oopsy, you changed transwoman to man.

Yep.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That is you, do you care about the women that have an issue with it?

I've yet to meet one.

Why do you dismiss my opinion so quickly?

Most places now have gender neutral bathrooms, single occupancy. Why is this not an acceptable option? Wouldn't the trans person feel more safe as well?

This was in response to, "What's understandable about not wanting them there, exactly? And what's understandable in the particular situation under discussion? Should this transwoman - who identifies and presents as a woman - be using the men's room? That's supposed to be the more acceptable option, how?"

So, no answer to any of my questions.

Yes, we are aware.

Great, then what's the problem again?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yep.

You made an error. They aren't the same.

 

[We Never Know]

Not everyone did. Not everyone will.

Not everyone survived Biden's, Trump's fisrt, either of Obama's, Bush's, etc. either being people die every day but that's beside the point.

 

[Revoltingest]

So what, It does not matter if they know or not...

Then they have no reaction.
Problem solved.

.... they are not comfortable with a man in the women's bathroom.

We're discussing transwomen, not men.

This used to be common logic until the loony left got involved.

I hope you're not claiming usage of logic.

 

[Revoltingest]

I believe that democrats are more likely to believe that astrology is a science than republicans.

Are Democrats more likely to believe Astrology is a science?

In an answer on politics.SE, a Northwestern University study was highlighted, whose main findings included: more Democrats than Republicans think astrology is scientific Using Fisher’s Exact Test,

skeptics.stackexchange.com

Whataboutism to take the focus off Ozzie, eh.
Are you now supporting astrology for medical usage?

Dem or Pub, I don't want any gov official
seeing astrology as a medical tool.

 

[Kathryn]

Whataboutism to take the focus off Ozzie, eh.
Are you now supporting astrology for medical usage?

Dem or Pub, I don't want any gov official
seeing astrology as a medical tools.

Nope, just posting facts. And no, I do not support anyone using astrology for anything actually. Other than toilet paper.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nope, just posting facts.

You don't post random facts.
They all serve a purpose.
Taking the focus off of Ozzie, & making it about
criticizing Democrats is classic whataboutism.
Tis a tool to defend the one from whom focus
is diverted. You are transparent.
(But not saying you're a trans parent.)