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Trump rally attracts tens of thousands of people in support.

Audie

Veteran Member
Its selfish and self centered all right. But I think it's also delusional. They think they can protest Trump right back into presidency. I hope there's no uproar when Biden moves into the whitehouse.
What was it for blm to try to burn and loot the nation into " social judtice"?

There was uproar when Trump won first time,
and how it would have been if he won again, i hate to think.

But I'm with you, plz plz, let's have peaceful move ro white house.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Only in a limited sense. Outdoors spread is almost negligible. Indoors is where transmission is said to occur the most so I have no issue wearing one myself to do my part in delaying the virus enough so that some type of vaccine can be made available to assist in obtaining proper herd immunity.

Outdoor spread is minimal *if* social distancing is kept. But if you are outside and shoulder to shoulder, transmission occurs easily.

To prevent transmission, three things help a lot: masks, distance, and ventilation.

In any situation, you should have 2 of those 3.

if the wind is blowing outside, that can provide the ventilation. If not, and there are no masks and no distancing, then infection will occur.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Calm down.
It's just a quirk of the system...not fraud.
Of course, it's a troubling quirk.

I consider trying to manipulate the outcome of the election by manipulating the electorial vote fraud. I posted docuented evidence that Trump was trying to do this in Georgia, and the Georgia GOP turned it down.

The quirks in the electorial system are dangerous quirks.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Packed crowds and euphoric leaders: Australia revels in Covid-free days

"Perhaps most crucially, McVernon said, politicians listened to health experts.

“The same advice was coming from experts in the US and UK but they took less definitive early action. They didn’t have that overarching coordination like we had here, where all of the relevant state and federal governments were singing from the same hymn sheet.”

With cases spiralling in both the US and UK, McVernon said the only real hope was to suppress the virus. But, she said, there were cultural factors that played in Australia’s favour too.

“Particularly in the US it’s totally out of control now. And so they might be able to do some things to suppress it, but it’s also about turning around a population that will actively revolt at the idea of wearing a mask or doing any of these things that might limit its spread,” she said.

"Australians are pretty compliant overall, and we still have that level of social cohesion where these things can work.”
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Very fine people, on both sides.

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Audie

Veteran Member
Exactly like they could have voted for Clinton in 2016.

That was the year the faithless electors could have prevented a HUGE mess.

Of course, they never materialized. To all of our detriment.

Who knows how Hillary would have detrimentated the country.

I find her loathsome but I'd have voted for her anyway.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Who knows how Hillary would have detrimental the country.

I find her loathsome but I'd have voted for her anyway.

She would have been loathsome, but far less so that the orange gibbon currently in the office.

Why is he not giving Biden security briefings? This is *standard* even in disputed elections.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
She would have been loathsome, but far less so that the orange gibbon currently in the office.

Why is he not giving Biden security briefings? This is *standard* even in disputed elections.

Um coz he is a xxxxxxxx?

BTW, calling Obama a black gibbon would not really be cool, so a bit of
equal pc might be in order.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You are apparently advocating election fraud.
I suppose some can see it that way but thats the way the system is presently set up. I'm thinking the controversy involves electors choice in that they cannot be forced to vote a certain way, which incidentally can be viewed as election fraud as well.

A rock and a hard place.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I suppose some can see it that way but thats the way the system is presently set up. I'm thinking the controversy involves electors choice in that they cannot be forced to vote a certain way, which incidentally can be viewed as election fraud as well.

A rock and a hard place.

I find it MUCH more likely that any faithless electors will vote to save the country from Trump. he has been, by far, the worst president in my life and, from what I can see, the worst of the last century.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I find it MUCH more likely that any faithless electors will vote to save the country from Trump. he has been, by far, the worst president in my life and, from what I can see, the worst of the last century.
I wont miss Trump actually. He was never my first choice. He was that stick of dynamite I was hoping that would dislodge the status quo and business as usual mentality.

I feel only moderate success has been achieved but nothing really solved. Biden is just going to continue where Obama left off and Harris is a disaster waiting to happen should Biden kick the bucket.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I suppose some can see it that way but thats the way the system is presently set up. I'm thinking the controversy involves electors choice in that they cannot be forced to vote a certain way, which incidentally can be viewed as election fraud as well.

A rock and a hard place.
Actually they can be. The Supreme Court said that states can order their electors to follow the state's choice.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Were you infuriated by the behaviour of antifa and blm?
They were wearing masks. That makes a huge difference.
And, FYI, antifa isn't a group. They don't have rallies and events like BLM, who is organized and an actual group. Antifa is more of an ideology.

Trump actually is the president, not illegitimate as in your "president".
The People did not vote for that *****. And certainly he has acted more like a child than a president.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I wont miss Trump actually. He was never my first choice. He was that stick of dynamite I was hoping that would dislodge the status quo and business as usual mentality.

I feel only moderate success has been achieved but nothing really solved. Biden is just going to continue where Obama left off and Harris is a disaster waiting to happen should Biden kick the bucket.
Unfortunately instead of draining the swamp he hired it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
They were wearing masks. That makes a huge difference.
And, FYI, antifa isn't a group. They don't have rallies and events like BLM, who is organized and an actual group. Antifa is more of an ideology.


The People did not vote for that *****. And certainly he has acted more like a child than a president.
Wearing masks does not excuse violence. I believe that the only reason this election was at all close is because antifa and other violent actors in riots alienated middle of the road voters.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
That's quite a number for one rally and its hearting to know that so many attended in a show of solidarity.

Million MAGA March, Trump rally today: Thousands rally in DC; updates

Unfortunately there were 10 arrests made, but it was otherwise peaceful.

I do think there were questionable instances where voter fraud occurred but without adequate proof, its hard to confirm with certainty.

Still there might be protest votes in December so there's hope for a Trump win but not certain.
The "Million MAGA March" attracted thousands. :D

That's a pretty funny commentary on the Trump presidency right there.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Wearing masks does not excuse violence. I believe that the only reason this election was at all close is because antifa and other violent actors in riots alienated middle of the road voters.
"BLM and antifa" does not inherently imply violence.
Unless you believe it does, I suppose. But factually there is no reason to automatically think a handful of violent hooligans mean we have to associate the entire thing with violence (we certainly don't when it comes to MLK - in fact many pretend it just never happened then).
 
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