Trump "Tearing U.S. Apart"?

[sun rise]

I think he embodies and panders to those forces which seek to tear us apart. Every positive change automatically evokes forces that oppose it. As people try to create a better nation, those who benefit from the status quo automatically resist. Trump is the archetype of that resistance exemplifying lust, greed, wrath, crony capitalism, ignorance, self-centered egotism etc.

I'm not writing about any specific political position but about the level of psychological and spiritual maturity he manifests.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

That's because the redneck demographic is easily impressed and manipulated.

LOL

 

[Father Heathen]

LOL

I'm serious. Just play to their patriotic and religious sentiments, and they'll be eating out of your hands (no matter how dirty they may be).

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I'm serious. Just play to their patriotic and religious sentiments, and they'll be eating out of your hands (no matter how dirty they may be).

LOL I know you are it's just cracking me up

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

America is divided by its politics its culture and its wealth.
Trump is just a catalyst in this. And tends to bring out the worst in his supporters.
The hurricane harvy can not be laid at his door, but his anti green views on global warming emphasise the dangers that his policies hold for the future.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

it takes two to tango

And four to square dance, but only one to go-go dance.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm serious. Just play to their patriotic and religious sentiments, and they'll be eating out of your hands (no matter how dirty they may be).

Any successful party panders to its base.
It's easy to make fun of religious rednecks, but Dems do the same (pandering, that is) to blacks & SJWs.
And yes, it's "equivalent".

As for the country being torn apart, I say that's a belief based upon watching
too much news, & feeling that such coverage represents the whole country.

 

[tytlyf]

Any successful party panders to its base.
It's easy to make fun of religious rednecks, but Dems do the same to blacks & SJWs.
And yes, it's "equivalent".

The GOP panders to the conservative base for their vote. But once elected the GOP ignores their base. Corporations and the wealthy are priority for the GOP, not the conservative base. Which is why the middle class is ignored in Trump and Co's tax plan.
But you're not supposed to know that.

 

[Revoltingest]

The GOP panders to the conservative base for their vote.

Of course it does.
And not just conservatives, who are only part of the base.
This is just as the Dems pander to their liberal base.

But once elected the GOP ignores their base.

As does the Democratic Party.
Example:
Obama the would-be-peacenik campaigned on ending the wars, & closing Gitmo.

Corporations and the wealthy are priority for the GOP, not the conservative base.

They aren't the liberal base either.
But their donations fuel the Democratic Party, which makes
hay with the base by bad mouthing business & the wealthy.

 

[idav]

I'm not writing about any specific political position but about the level of psychological and spiritual maturity he manifests.

Ain't that the truth, I'd been saying by since the beginning Trump isn't even a real Republican, he was really good friends with he Clintons.

 

[tytlyf]

Of course it does.
And not just conservatives, who are only part of the base.
This is just as the Dems pander to their liberal base.

The base of the republican party are conservatives. Moderates are not the base. The opposite is true of the democratic party.

As does the Democratic Party.
Example:
Obama the would-be-peacenik campaigned on ending the wars, & closing Gitmo.

Obama did end wars and draw down troops. The GOP wouldn't allow Obama to close Gitmo. There are no middle class policies in the republican party.

They aren't the liberal base either.
But their donations fuel the Democratic Party, which makes
hay with the base by bad mouthing business & the wealthy.

That's true. But the democratic party is in favor of donation caps and not allowing corporations to buy elections. Only the GOP is interested in unlimited anonymous corporate donations. False equivalence.

The parties aren't even close to being the same. One listens to their voters.

 

[metis]

Trump is not doing anything to help the situation, but I do not believe Trump is "tearing the U.S. apart."

With his very confrontational approach, even within his own party, I have to disagree. And this confrontational style he thrives on even when he was dealing with his businesses.

 

[Revoltingest]

The base of the republican party are conservatives. Moderates are not the base. The opposite is true of the democratic party.


Obama did end wars and draw down troops. The GOP wouldn't allow Obama to close Gitmo. There are no middle class policies in the republican party.


That's true. But the democratic party is in favor of donation caps and not allowing corporations to buy elections. Only the GOP is interested in unlimited anonymous corporate donations. False equivalence.

The parties aren't even close to being the same. One listens to their voters.

You're a very loyal guy.

 

[metis]

But I don't think that can be blamed totally on Trump.

As for myself, I didn't and don't.

 

[metis]

The American public has been tearing itself apart for years now. Trump has just added more fuel to the fire and gotten people more worked up and polarized more quickly than they already have been getting. I think the same thing would probably have happened had Clinton gotten elected. Granted, she would have said a lot fewer stupid things, but I doubt the mood in the country would be any better.

I completely agree with you on this, and on all counts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Compared to the 60s, the country seems less torn apart.

 

[metis]

Trump is the archetype of that resistance exemplifying lust, greed, wrath, crony capitalism, ignorance, self-centered egotism etc.

Yes, and it's "interesting" that some who decry crony capitalism voted for and still support the guy who magnifies it in spades.

 

[metis]

Ain't that the truth, I'd been saying by since the beginning Trump isn't even a real Republican, he was really good friends with he Clintons.

Even as some close to Trump have admitted, Trump is overwhelmingly for Trump and, as we've seen, he'll turn on anyone in a heartbeat. Now there's some serious friction he's having with Kelly and Cohn, so "stay tuned for further developments".

 

[Stevicus]

Compared to the 60s, the country seems less torn apart.

Perhaps, although back then, I think people honestly made an effort to try to bring the country together and promote peace. Despite whatever disagreements and dissension there were back then, I think most people wanted to try to make the best of it. Plus, the economy was much better back then. America was stronger and in a more favorable position back then, as opposed to now.

Nowadays, political partisanship is more like fools fighting over a sinking ship. The issues may be similar, but instead of letting old wounds heal, people want to open them up again.

 

[tytlyf]

You're a very loyal guy.

Absolutely, being in the middle class I'm more interested in electing people putting forth middle class policies. There is no benefit to me voting republican. The GOP puts the middle class 2nd to the 1%. While the democrats want to raise taxes on the 1% and give tax relief to the middle class.

Republicans represent corporate policy
Democrats represent middle class and American worker policy

It's that simple.