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Trump "Tearing U.S. Apart"?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Perhaps, although back then, I think people honestly made an effort to try to bring the country together and promote peace. Despite whatever disagreements and dissension there were back then, I think most people wanted to try to make the best of it. Plus, the economy was much better back then. America was stronger and in a more favorable position back then, as opposed to now.

Nowadays, political partisanship is more like fools fighting over a sinking ship. The issues may be similar, but instead of letting old wounds heal, people want to open them up again.
Nah....we're better off now than we were in the 60s.
The VN War was raging, & peace seemed a long way off.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Absolutely, being in the middle class I'm more interested in electing people putting forth middle class policies. There is no benefit to me voting republican. The GOP puts the middle class 2nd to the 1%. While the democrats want to raise taxes on the 1% and give tax relief to the middle class.

Republicans represent corporate policy
Democrats represent middle class and American worker policy

It's that simple.
I can't read your post.
I'm just looking at your latest avatar.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Shocked as I am that there are adults who considered voting for Trump, he is far more of a symptom or a manifestation than a cause. He was enabled by the same fear and vitriol that so crippled the Obama years. Hopefully now that they got what they presumably wanted they will learn a bit better.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Sounds about right.
The most recent idiocy coming from the WH administration regarding the transgender ban is the most telling. 71 percent of soldiers don't mind fighting along side transgender, that is Trump going against his true base and pandering to the far right minority of a minority.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You may not have, but the tea party supporters did. The GOP doesn't target critically thinking voters, they go for the low hanging fruit. And that fruit equates looks ---> credibility.
Do you think Democrats are different in this regard?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Shocked as I am that there are adults who considered voting for Trump.....
Imagine our shock at people, even ferriners, who look at Hillary & her record,
& think to themselves.....
"Yes! That's the kind of President we want!"
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Personally, I think Trump is really a non-issue.
And I think he is an issue that could get worse before it gets better. The debt-ceiling chickens are coming home to roost and I worry that Trump is going to get his shotgun out because of his insistence on building "the Wall" no matter if it shuts down the government.

Then he and Kelly and Cohn are on the outs, and the former has put Trump in a straight jacket, but the word is that he hates it. W/O Kelly, then there'll likely to be a "let Trump be Trump" explosion because he's supposedly in a very "dark mood" according to one inside source.

This guy is a loose canon, and he could do an awful lot of damage in a short period or time.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Nah....we're better off now than we were in the 60s.
The VN War was raging, & peace seemed a long way off.

Yes, but the hippies wanted peace. They called the summer of 1967 the "Summer of Love." Peace, love, flower children, "All You Need Is Love." MLK preached non-violence and called for hope and togetherness, not divisions. True, the war was raging and there were divisions and people recognized that there was a long way to go. But there was still hope for the future. There was a still an overriding sense of optimism that seems to have dissipated in more recent times.

We still have wars going on today. The same basic foreign policy which led to wars like in Vietnam is still firmly in place and embraced by both parties enthusiastically. Although I think there was greater fear of all-out nuclear war back in the 60s than there is now. That's one significant difference, but even then, the possibility still exists.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes, but the hippies wanted peace. They called the summer of 1967 the "Summer of Love." Peace, love, flower children, "All You Need Is Love." MLK preached non-violence and called for hope and togetherness, not divisions. True, the war was raging and there were divisions and people recognized that there was a long way to go. But there was still hope for the future. There was a still an overriding sense of optimism that seems to have dissipated in more recent times.

We still have wars going on today. The same basic foreign policy which led to wars like in Vietnam is still firmly in place and embraced by both parties enthusiastically. Although I think there was greater fear of all-out nuclear war back in the 60s than there is now. That's one significant difference, but even then, the possibility still exists.
Hippies did indeed want peace, but there was also the ultra-violent element.
We had a few bombings & fires in my town back in the day.
Things were tense.
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Many things about the media seem to irritate President Trump, but one narrative that really gets under his skin is that someone else controls him. It's a direct shot to the pride of a man who built his political brand on being the one who — “alone” — can fix the nation's problems.

If you have noticed the glut of recent reports on White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly's attempt to act as the president's gatekeeper, then you probably were not surprised to read this in The Washington Post on Thursday evening: Trump “has been especially sensitive to the way Kelly's rigid structure is portrayed in the media and strives to disabuse people of the notion that he is being managed.”

“Donald Trump resists being handled,” Roger Stone, a former Trump adviser, told The Post's Philip Rucker and Ashley Parker. “Nobody tells him who to see, who to listen to, what to read, what he can say.”

In fact, there is substantial evidence that Trump is rather impressionable and can be influenced by what he sees on television or by the last person with whom he speaks about a given issue. But it is clearly important to the president that he be seen as an independent thinker.

Analysis | The media narrative that really gets under Trump’s skin
 
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