Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
Why are you spreading this innuendo, when the facts are clearly different and have been widely reported? Also, see post 36 in this thread.
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Trump tries a stunt at Arlington National Cemetery and it fails horribly:
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Why are you spreading this innuendo, when the facts are clearly different and have been widely reported? Also, see post 36 in this thread.
Father Heathen
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And?
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Does anyone know if they have released this video yet? It would make things being said about the altercation clearer.
Trump Campaign Weighs Releasing Video of Arlington Altercation
"The Trump campaign reportedly is "weighing options" on whether to release video footage of an altercation with Arlington National Cemetery officials."
Trump Campaign Weighs Releasing Video of Arlington Altercation
The Trump campaign reportedly is "weighing options" on whether to release video footage of an altercation with Arlington National Cemetery officials.
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Why does there have to be an 'and'?
It was just simply asking if they noticed them.
Father Heathen
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Btw, apparently Musk was trying to censor the story on Twitter:
newrepublic.com
Elon Musk’s X Caught Slapping Spam Warning on NPR Story About Trump
Elon Musk’s “free speech” platform flagged an NPR article about the Trump campaign’s altercation at the Arlington National Cemetery.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I responded that I had noticed.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I know. I was just wondering how it tied into the story.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I had commented about how the three to the far left did not look pleased. One, as pointed out, is most probably a Vet as the one beside him, and possibly brothers in arms to the fallen. It's sad and disturbing that their day of remembrance was so tainted. This whole issue as upset me to the point I stuck my two cents worth in on my fb newsfeed where I'm a clear loner in political opinion. But I could not continue to see my RL friends buying the crap they're being feed -- not on this issue!
Okay, I best go to bed and try to leave my rants behind to the past. Sorry.
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My thoughts as well.
I figured being where they were, how they looked, missing limbs, etc one would think the same.
And I was right .. One did, you. The other hadn't a clue.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
Does anyone know if they have released this video yet? It would make things being said about the altercation clearer.
Trump Campaign Weighs Releasing Video of Arlington Altercation
"The Trump campaign reportedly is "weighing options" on whether to release video footage of an altercation with Arlington National Cemetery officials."
Trump Campaign Weighs Releasing Video of Arlington Altercation
The Trump campaign reportedly is "weighing options" on whether to release video footage of an altercation with Arlington National Cemetery officials.www-newsmax-com.cdn.ampproject.org
If Trump has not released the video yet, either it does not exist or it does not vindicate their side of the story. Why else would they not have released it by now? However, merely claiming to have such "proof" is enough for most of his supporters. As for the woman employee who had been trying to enforce the rules prohibiting photography in that area of the cemetery, she had filed a report but declined to pursue the complaint, fearing the kind of harassment from Trump zealots that she would face by coming forward. Meanwhile, it turns out that Trump got his House Speaker, Mike Johnson, to call the army and get special permission for Trump to go with the family into the cemetery, although they did not give permission for any campaign photo ops or activities. Trump's entourage was informed of the rules, but this is Donald Trump. They simply broke the law anyway, expecting that nothing would come of it. They were right on that score. Trump was obviously there to make a video, which he has already posted in social media, complete with a musical sound track. Thumbs up on that one, eh?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign managers took it from him like a parent taking something from a child. They were told no pictures or recording, they did it anyways, got into a fight over it and Trump has a world kf legal problems as it is.If Trump has not released the video yet, either it does not exist or it does not vindicate their side of the story. Why else would they not have released it by now? However, merely claiming to have such "proof" is enough for most of his supporters. As for the woman employee who had been trying to enforce the rules prohibiting photography in that area of the cemetery, she had filed a report but declined to pursue the complaint, fearing the kind of harassment from Trump zealots that she would face by coming forward. Meanwhile, it turns out that Trump got his House Speaker, Mike Johnson, to call the army and get special permission for Trump to go with the family into the cemetery, although they did not give permission for any campaign photo ops or activities. Trump's entourage was informed of the rules, but this is Donald Trump. They simply broke the law anyway, expecting that nothing would come of it. They were right on that score. Trump was obviously there to make a video, which he has already posted in social media, complete with a musical sound track. Thumbs up on that one, eh?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Could be Texas University alumni.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
The Bottom line was Trump and the Gold Star families were there to honor they fallen loved one on the anniversary of their death after the botched pull out from Afghanistan by Biden and Harris. Botched was their theme for the past 4 years.
The place they visited, area 60, if is for recently fallen soldiers, as they had been. NPR; national public radio, once again is carrying the water for the DNC. They are not an unbiased source as was exposed by high level whistle blowers. I expect that their tax payer funding will be cut off, since the tax payer should not be funding a DNC propaganda wing. The Trump derangement Syndrome has fried too many brains; cemetery attendant going postal. That is DEI for you.
This stint for nothing was the DNC trying to keep the botch pull out from Afghanistan out of the news. This is part of the Harris Campaign theme, which is pretend the past never occurred, even though there is plenty of documentation in Harris own words.
The place they visited, area 60, if is for recently fallen soldiers, as they had been. NPR; national public radio, once again is carrying the water for the DNC. They are not an unbiased source as was exposed by high level whistle blowers. I expect that their tax payer funding will be cut off, since the tax payer should not be funding a DNC propaganda wing. The Trump derangement Syndrome has fried too many brains; cemetery attendant going postal. That is DEI for you.
This stint for nothing was the DNC trying to keep the botch pull out from Afghanistan out of the news. This is part of the Harris Campaign theme, which is pretend the past never occurred, even though there is plenty of documentation in Harris own words.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
The Patton quote in no way reduces the offensiveness of what Trump said.
If someone has put their life at risk in serving militarily for your country why do you think it is ok for your president to make disparaging comment?
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Secret Chief
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I do wonder if English is not their first language?
Not a factor for Trump.
That's your defense? Instead of calling them suckers and losers on the same day, he said them on different days? I guess you think that that is a mitigating factor.
It happened. There were multiple sources, and one was John Kelly (second citation). Kelly is a patriot, and Trump is well-known as a faithless sociopath and traitor:
"Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed." source
"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family — for all Gold Star families — on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France."
Harris was respectful of the soldiers AND respectful of the law and tradition. Trump has no use for either. From YOUR link:
Harris released a statement early Monday morning naming the 13 U.S. service members who were killed during the terrorist attack at Abbey Gate outside Kabul's Hamid Karzai International Airport on Aug. 26, 2021, mourning their deaths and calling on Americans to "come together as one nation to honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice three years ago."
"Today and everyday, I mourn and honor them. My prayers are with their families and loved ones. My heart breaks for their pain and their loss. These 13 devoted patriots represent the best of America, putting our beloved nation and their fellow Americans above themselves and deploying into danger to keep their fellow citizens safe," Harris wrote in the statement.
How disgusting that you MAGA come to the defense of that insect Trump. Why would you? Why take his side? (Rhetorical question; there is no acceptable answer to that)
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Wrong. I knew you had a reason, but you claimed you didn't on post #64, yet then contradict yourself with post #70.
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It needed no explanation.
Its not my fault you didn't understand.
The other poster did.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
You merely pointed it out. For all I knew your point could've been "Look, a wounded veteran standing with Trump. This makes Trump's actions there a-okay." But I didn't want to assume, so I asked.