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Trump will be reelected

magid

Member
He seems to be frank, strong & decisive in contradistinction to many other presidents.
He believes and acts for "USA first.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I agree. For better or worse the left will be shocked (again) and Trump will be re-elected. There are many secret Trump supporters and the left continuously demonstrates that it didn’t learn anything from the first election.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I agree. For better or worse the left will be shocked (again) and Trump will be re-elected. There are many secret Trump supporters and the left continuously demonstrates that it didn’t learn anything from the first election.
As your resident Neo-Con, I feel I must observe that the Democrats certainly seemed to be paying very close attention this week, to their credit. I'd say that shows they learned something. That said, I've kidded since the day he was elected that it was going to be a very long 8 years....

In regards to the OP:
He seems to be frank, strong & decisive in contradistinction to many other presidents.
He believes and acts for "USA first.
That the President speaks like no other president has ever spoken is hardly news. This is coming from a non-American Trump supporter (more or less) before you call me a liberal wingnut. :) I think your reasons are naively dangerous about anyone, let alone, Trump. That kind of thinking ushered Mao and Stalin into their long bloody careers.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Who knows. I don't hate him (he's a scumbag and sideshow character but I don't expect anything more from him) and support some of his stances while opposing others, but I probably won't vote for him since many Republican stances violate my principles. I hope someone along the lines of Sanders gets the Democratic nomination.
 
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Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Who knows. I don't hate him (he's a scumbag and sideshow character but I don't expect anything more from him) and support some of his stances while opposing others, but I probably won't vote for him since many Republican stances violate my principles. I hope someone along the lines of Sanders gets the Democratic nomination.
So you’re a socialist?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Who knows. I don't hate him (he's a scumbag and sideshow character but I don't expect anything more from him) and support some of his stances while opposing others, but I probably won't vote for him since many Republican stances violate my principles. I hope someone along the lines of Sanders gets the Democratic nomination.

An elderly radical socialist like Sanders, this would almost certainly ensure Trump's re-election. ...:D
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
An elderly radical socialist like Sanders, this would almost certainly ensure Trump's re-election. ...:D
He's not a socialist (despite what he calls himself at times, he's basically a New Deal progressive), he's hardly radical, and Trump is an old man who stuffs his face with fast food and fried chicken. At least Sanders is healthy. However, you are an admitted white separatist and admire a neo-Nazi mass murderer of children. So spare me.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
While I agree with the conclusion that Trump is likely to be reelected, the political naivete in this thread is as thick as childhood on a six year old. But have at it.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, to be clear, Bernie supports a system where wealth is distributed by the government. It’s just that he thinks this should happen through democratic instead of authoritarian means.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Well, go be clear, Bernie supports a system where wealth is distributed by the government. It’s just that he thinks this should happen through democratic instead of authoritarian means.
That's not what socialism is. That's welfare capitalism. Socialism is when the workers own the means of production. So it's more like a factory that's owned by the people who work there or a workplace where the workers democratically manage everything, like a co-op. It's supposed to be a form of direct democracy. Most Americans don't know what socialism or communism (or Fascism) actually is. Our political definitions are based on rhetoric from the Cold War and are all screwed up.

Socialism - Wikipedia
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
He's not a socialist (despite what he calls himself at times, he's basically a New Deal progressive) and he's hardly radical, whereas you are an admitted white separatist and admire a neo-Nazi mass murderer of children. So spare me.


You're correct on count, one...I'm a white separatist, but let's not forget I also support the black separatists as well.;.on count two..you're only partly correct...I agree with Anders Behring Breivik regarding his stance against the Islamization of Europe, but I don't condone the mass killing of any children..that's where I draw the line.
 
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Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's not what socialism is. That's welfare capitalism. Socialism is when the workers own the means of production. So it's more like a factory that's owned by the people who work there or a workplace where the workers democratically manage everything, like a co-op. It's supposed to be a form of direct democracy. Most Americans don't know what socialism or communism (or Fascism) actually is. Our political definitions are based on rhetoric from the Cold War and are all screwed up.

Socialism - Wikipedia
The definitions are evolving and disputed these days. But I understand what your saying. Bernie is not be a traditional socialist.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
You're correct on count, one...I'm a white separatist, but let's not forget I also support the black separatists as well.;.on count two..your only partly correct...I agree with Anders Behring Breivik regarding his stance against the Islamization of Europe, but I don't condone the mass killing of any children..that's where I draw the line.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
As usual people still don't know what socialism is, you would think that they might have decided to read about what it is by now, but they prefer to use this misinformation as a weapon. The masses are either ignorant or lazy or both to learn for themselves whether or not the drivel that is vomited out is truth or not.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
You're correct on count, one...I'm a white separatist, but let's not forget I also support the black separatists as well.;.on count two..your only partly correct...I agree with Anders Behring Breivik regarding his stance against the Islamization of Europe, but I don't condone the mass killing of any children..that's where I draw the line.
Mmm hmm, right...
I'm way closer to supporting fascism with some tweaks than you are.
Not really. Neo-Nazism is not Fascism. Fascism isn't racist. Either way, I have nothing to do with your sickness.
 
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