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Trump will end abortion

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I am committed to:
 Nominating pro-life justices to the U.S. Supreme Court.
 Signing into law the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would end painful
late-term abortions nationwide.
 Defunding Planned Parenthood as long as they continue to perform abortions, and re-
allocating their funding to community health centers that provide comprehensive health care
for women.
 Making the Hyde Amendment permanent law to protect taxpayers from having to pay for
abortions.
Your help is crucial to make this contrast clear in the minds of pro-life voters, especially those in
battleground states. Together we can form this vital coalition so that Mike Pence and I can be
advocates for the unborn and their mothers every day we are in the White House.
Sincerely,
Donald J. Trump
Frankly, I want to see abortion reduced. That is why I support Planned Parenthood. They reduced abortions in Colorado by double digits when they started giving people long term birth control implants.
Trump is promising to do it by nominating SCOTUS judges who will gut PP funding and make it harder to get one legally.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I support women's rights to choose, but late term? Thats completely monstrous and hideous.

I'm with Trump all the way in the elimination of pain capable abortions save for dire emergency circumstances.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Frankly, I want to see abortion reduced. That is why I support Planned Parenthood. They reduced abortions in Colorado by double digits when they started giving people long term birth control implants.
Trump is promising to do it by nominating SCOTUS judges who will gut PP funding and make it harder to get one legally.
Tom
Yep. An ounce of prevention. A time honored adage.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I support women's rights to choose, but late term? Thats completely monstrous and hideous.

I'm with Trump all the way in the elimination of pain capable abortions save for dire emergency circumstances.
But he will prevent that from happening by slashing funding to Planned Parenthood. They prevent more abortions than any other group.
Tom
 

lovesong

:D
Premium Member
I don't think a fetus has personhood until it reaches the stage of development when it would be able to survive outside of the womb without medical intervention, making a good number of late-term abortions fine in my book. Her reason for waiting so late aside, to me it is much worse to force a woman to carry the pregnancy out and endure labor and birth against her will than it is to abort a fetus.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I don't think a fetus has personhood until it reaches the stage of development when it would be able to survive outside of the womb without medical intervention, making a good number of late-term abortions fine in my book. Her reason for waiting so late aside, to me it is much worse to force a woman to carry the pregnancy out and endure labor and birth against her will than it is to abort a fetus.
In what way is this relevant?
Trump is promising to put SCOTUS judges in place who end RvW, and cut funding to Planned Parenthood.
Is that ok with you?
It is not okay with me. And I am a hard core ProLifer.
Tom
 

lovesong

:D
Premium Member
In what way is this relevant?
Trump is promising to put SCOTUS judges in place who end RvW, and cut funding to Planned Parenthood.
Is that ok with you?
It is not okay with me. And I am a hard core ProLifer.
Tom
It's relevant because he wants to get more pro-lifers in and pass an anti-later-term abortion bill. I am against these things since I believe very strongly that a woman has full right to choose up until the point that the fetus would be able to survive outside the womb without medical intervention. I absolutely love Planned Parenthood, I wish it got even more funding, but that wasn't the point I was addressing.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
All the more reasons my position of voting for Hillary solely for the Supreme Court appointees is a very valid concern, with implications that extend much further out than abortions.
And defunding Planned Parenthood is probably the best way to increase the demand for abortions. It's infuriating the Conservatives want to defund the "baby killers," even though their preferred method of family planning leads to a higher rate of unintended pregnancies, many lies and falsehoods about sex, and never mind the fact they totally ignore the many vital and necessary health services that PP offers to women and men.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I'm pro abortion, not just pro choice.
I don't think he's a threat to this right.
Did you read his plan?
He's going to nominate SCOTUS judges who will gut RvW and slash funding to Planned Parenthood.

Or maybe you are one of the many Trump supporters who assume that he is lying every time he talks?
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Did you read his plan?
He's going to nominate SCOTUS judges who will gut RvW and slash funding to Planned Parenthood.

Or maybe you are one of the many Trump supporters who assume that he is lying every time he talks?
Tom
I believe that abortion rights are such entrenched public policy now that the USSC would not go against stare decisis.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
With Pence behind him, he is likely a far greater threat to abortion rights than Hillary is to gun rights.
Here's an important consideration.
If Trump gets elected, he doesn't know much about government. He'll be busy enough finding out about Daesh and where our oil comes from and such.
But the the SCOTUS judge will be an issue that's been hanging fire for months. Trump will delegate that, while he holds parties in Trump Towers and such.
So Pence will be tasked with nominating the super Huge Trump nominee for the Supreme Court.
And as we all know, Roy Moore is looking for a job. Who does anyone think Pence, who hates gays and pregnant women, will pick?
Merrick Garland or Roy Moore?
Pence doesn't want a centrist Republican like Garland. He wants a fire breathing Christian Republican like Moore.
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
With Pence behind him, he is likely a far greater threat to abortion rights than Hillary is to gun rights.
That's an interesting comparison.
I don't know which is more at risk.
Abortion rights are a weakness of Trump's,
as gun rights are a weakness of Hilda's.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's an interesting comparison.
I don't know which is more at risk.
Abortion rights are a weakness of Trump's,
as gun rights are a weakness of Hilda's.
Considering Trump has launched his promise to end abortions and defund Planned Parenthood, while Hillary has said nothing of ending gun ownership, this just isn't a question.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Frankly, I want to see abortion reduced. That is why I support Planned Parenthood. They reduced abortions in Colorado by double digits when they started giving people long term birth control implants.
Trump is promising to do it by nominating SCOTUS judges who will gut PP funding and make it harder to get one legally.
Tom
I agree.

Planned Parenthood, and similar organizations, and comprehensive sex education, reduce the number of abortions. I'm mostly in favor of things that result in lower numbers of abortions.

I consider one of the most dangerous things about the possibility of a Trump presidency is the Supreme Court nominations he'll go with. Trump might last for 4 or 8 years if elected, but his nominated justices could last 20+ or 30+ years.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I see little evidence that Clinton will do much about gun ownership, other than possibly banning people on the terrorist watch list and such from buying guns, or passing weak laws mildly strengthening the use of background checks.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
That's an interesting comparison.
I don't know which is more at risk.
Abortion rights are a weakness of Trump's,
as gun rights are a weakness of Hilda's.
I don't see that as a question.
I would love to see Godzillary put the crush on heavy duty weaponry. But she won't, because it would be politically inexpedient.
Tom
 
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