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Trump will end abortion
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esmith
Veteran Member
Why do you think this?
I, personally, think that raising the standard of personal responsibility is a better way forwards than offing our progeny.
You apparently have a different opinion.
Tom
Wirey
Fartist
Having been to Wal-Mart this weekend, I have to say he's kinda got a point.
1) Because fundies have restricted the market with their murders & threats, this would mean unmet demand.
(I & my tenants were threatened by one group who thought I might to rent to a a provider.
I was undiplomatic in my objections. Thereafter, they kept their distance.)
2) Over-population is an ever increasing problem. The choice to not have children should be as easy as possible.
3) Children cost money, especially the unwanted ones, who are more likely to become a burden upon society.
4) I see nothing at all wrong with abortion.
It's like having an appendix removed....entirely the business of the person with the growth within.
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Get your pitchforks, boys! GET EM!Back to the point, I agree with your list, as such, have a frubal!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Honestly, at times, I do think I could bite a libertarian bullet just to cleanse politics of Christian Conservatives who want their own dogma to become law. Then I might finally be able to buy a bottle of rum to cook dinner with and a bottle of wine to go with it on a Sunday. And many of their welfare plans (the ones who have them anyways - other than just scrap them all entirely) would probably also work out better for more people. The big downside though is corporate executives and investment tycoons gaining more power/money through tax reductions, which them having enough power/money to essentially buy politicians and votes is a big reason we can't get anything reasonable done, because solutions and fixes don't make as much money as problems do.
Underhill
Well-Known Member
As I understand the current political climate, I am not allowed to agree with your hogwash if all of your hogwash doesn't align with mine. This lack of correct hogwash implicitly makes you the enemy.
.01? .05? So they need to take a breathalyzer just to be safe...
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why the hell would you lower yourself and go to Walmart? Are you possessed?
I know it's almost Halloween, but still!
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Why the hell would you lower yourself and go to Walmart? Are you possessed?
I can't speak for him, but where I live it's a choice between Wal Mart, Kmart and online. There's a shoe store I think (how they stay in business I have no idea) and thrift stores. But for clothing... very little without driving 40 minutes+.
I buy most of what I need online but am forced to shop at Wally World at least once every couple months.. usually for the stuff I don't want to bother with online and can't get elsewhere without paying through the nose.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ya, I hear ya as there's been a few times I have had to use the hell-hole myself at our place in da U.P. because some of the shopping can be pretty slim, unless you're planning being on a steady diet of pasties.
Speaking of which, what does a Yooper seven-course meal consist of?.
Answer: a pasty and a six-pack.
Whoa whoa whoa, everyone shut up! ... KMart still exists?
I think that one of the main causes of badly raised children is easy and secret abortion.
It gives people who are insufficiently responsible to go to PP, get birth control and use it, the feeling of entitlement to fertile sex. They aren't, but they are free to bring a child into the world.
Tom
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Whoa whoa whoa, everyone shut up! ... KMart still exists?
This week. Although I think the rent from Little Caesars is what is keeping the lights on...
I agree, but I would add that subsidised birth control is absolutely the most effective way to spend tax dollars. Providing free birth control for anyone living in poverty, students, or anyone receiving government assistance is an incredible investment. Spend pennies and save hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Well, I think comprehensive sex ed is best. But birth control is a close second.
Purity rings and sermons and such don't come close.
Tom
In a Libertarian world, politicians would wield less power.
So I wouldn't worry that they'd start bribing more than
they already are. Besides, this shouldn't be a concern
for anyone voting for a Clinton, the king or queen of
crony capitalism & pardons for sale.
I think walking a straight line is sufficient.
But if you demand more, here is a good test.....
I agree.
You're on dangerous ground there, bub.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And I do see that as a problem as it puts the working class in a position of being at the mercy of the owners. With all the chemicals, toxins, and terrible work conditions, we need to have the state to be able to have the power to amend these issues. What we really need is another Theodore Roosevelt - someone who is actually a true Progressive and not this modern day "progressive" that is just being used interchangeably with Liberal - to go in and bust up corporations and knock them down a few pegs. Revoke their "too big to fail" privileges, and even develop an "economy firewall" that will prevent an economic disaster from spreading and causing a widespread catastrophe.
And we are also in dire need of updating our social models. We still heavy rely on an industrial model for much of our lives, models that were developed along with Industrial Revolution, and though we live in an Age of Technology and Information, we still have the outdated industrial models. Some corporations do improve on this, but they are few and far between, and still not yet fully untethered from the deeply-rooted industrial mode of thinking.
It's also rooted in Puritan work ethic, and the less religious-nut influence we have, they better off everyone is.