Trump won because political correctness, liberalism, and sjws have run amok.

[The Emperor of Mankind]

It goes well beyond the electoral college.

No it really doesn't. Trump lost the popular ballot by roughly 3 million votes. It's the main only reason he, the candidate with the second most votes, is in the Oval Office.

 

[Curious George]

I think there is a lot of truth to this article. The anti-Trump brigade fails to appreciate that Trump was enabled by their over-reach and he was elected because a lot of people just wanted to see the anti-Trump people's heads explode. It worked. The rest is just an extended popcorn moment that keeps on going and going and going. You can almost smell the outrage and intellectual condescension.

If such a sentiment be true, which I imagine to some degree it is, then this says worse things about us as a nation than any pc/sjw overreach ever could.

 

[George-ananda]

What do you think about it?

This was a big factor in Trump's victory. This is just what I have been saying. Too many in the heartland are sick and tired of liberalism and sjw's running amok.

I couldn't vote for Trump because of his unprofessional style (to put it mildly) but I do have some anti-Democrat emotions because of these liberals and sjw's running amok. BLM rhetoric, anti-police attitudes, North Carolina bathroom brouhaha, etc., etc..

 

[idav]

I couldn't vote for Trump because of his unprofessional style (to put it mildly) but I do have some anti-Democrat emotions because of these liberals and sjw's running amok. BLM rhetoric, anti-police attitudes, North Carolina bathroom brouhaha, etc., etc..

Some of those organizations can get into an elitism mindset that fails to even be liberal. They can wear the label all they want, it sure fools a lot of folks.

 

[McBell]

From my observation the demographics of the people who made the largest voter impact on Trump election are people whose idea of "PC" are still sour over gay marriage being legalized outside of state vote. Not people of the age wondering whether or not college campuses think Milo is too much of an *** pimple to be invited to regurgitate his profoundly unenlightening drivel on their floors with official time slots. (Ask how I really feel).

I am asking.

though in this thread so as not to disrupt this one:

How ADigitalArtist really feels...​

 

[YmirGF]

If such a sentiment be true, which I imagine to some degree it is, then this says worse things about us as a nation than any pc/sjw overreach ever could.

Oh, I definitely agree, George. Definitely agree. How we both distill that might be interesting however.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Video gets a lot of things wrong.

1) Youtube Censorship is not policing "thought crime". That's absurd
2) Youtube controlling what they think is acceptable on their website is not a violation of legal free speech, it's merely an establishment of standards of discourse.

3) The clip of anita sarkesian is blatantly cherrypicked to make a false point. The clip used is literally from Anita criticising herself. She used to see structures where there were not, and think things which were not actively sexist were. It was self-criticism.

If this were anything above hypersensitivity of the right, we would have actual examples of video removal.

But nope. Just conservatives whining.

I think you tube willingly censors anything or everything now that dosent generate or threatens sufficient revenue, and/or appeals to its key upper managements own political or ideological liking. Imo.

If it contains any word not to its own standards, yep, it's thought (or word) policing like overzealous Chinese police rifling through what it thinks are its main dissidents and threats.

So you think in principle, regardless of privately owned status to which I agree is not a legal infringement of personal rights* that it's perfectly ok and fine then to aggressively shotgun for deemed sensitive "offensive" terms used on anybody and everybody in sight regardless of a persons intent or motive, then collectively quarantine and seize control of any and all videos regardless of weither it's truly benign or nefarious in nature, and determine by its own selected panel and use of programmed algorithms as to what can and cannot be said or expressed to their public.

I'm hoping with this blatant liberal use of censorship, that You Tube now dies a horrible and terrible corporate death when sick, fed up, and tired people start pulling out of this insane politically correct and sjw infested Media in droves, and hopefully in justified response, begin to start up a new free public use version of free use media with reasonable and fair moderation practices.

* Depending of course on a person's interpretation of what said rights are, Gay wedding cakes refused by privately owned Christian bakery's anyone?

 

[Twilight Hue]

This was a big factor in Trump's victory. This is just what I have been saying. Too many in the heartland are sick and tired of liberalism and sjw's running amok.

I couldn't vote for Trump because of his unprofessional style (to put it mildly) but I do have some anti-Democrat emotions because of these liberals and sjw's running amok. BLM rhetoric, anti-police attitudes, North Carolina bathroom brouhaha, etc., etc..

Trump was never my first choice, but his strength and unfaltering perseverance in making his opinions and thoughts known was a sign of strength against an intrusive and forceful adversary who in the name of equality and tolerance, was clearly not either of those things when it came to opposition.

Trumps appeal in light of the pc and sjw onslaught turned out to be a proper push back at these fanatical hypocrites and royally knock them down a proper few pegs.

I voted in hopes this "stick of dynamite" worked, and boy did it work. Wow! The wailing, whining, and howling of the entitled and self privileged was literally music to so many people who just simply had enough of the pushing and shoving to literally vote in the proverbial Devil himself to start to clean house.

 

[Flame]

Trump was never my first choice, but his strength and unfaltering perseverance in making his opinions and thoughts known was a sign of strength against an intrusive and forceful adversary who in the name of equality and tolerance, was clearly not either of those things when it came to opposition.

I wouldn't consider him the unwavering in his opinions. He's been flip flopping them since the beginning; both in the elections and in his time as president.

Tracking Trump’s flip-flops in his first 100 days

 

[Mister Emu]

What do you think about it?

The insane and inane P.C. culture isn't what won the Presidency, that is economics. A more nuanced understanding is that it is what disrupted the normal social conventions around acceptable behavior. The people who need to understand that they are no more morally superior than the "moral majority" will unfortunately never do so, the very idea of accepting introspection into their abhorrent behavior is anathema.

So, while their behavior continually contributes to the desecration of decency in public discourse, they will still froth at the mouth when some one deemed unacceptable is given a platform. They will still attempt to drive people and ideas they disagree with out of the public sphere, not through victory in the marketplace of ideas, but brute force disallowance of wrong-think.

I agree with this in part, but I don't think it is all reasonable.

I don't think it is unreasonable for a society to demand that the marketplace of ideas be open. While a backlash against authoritarian oversight might take a somewhat unreasonable form, the need for a backlash itself is not so and people will take the release valve they are offered from oppression.

 

[Kapalika]

The idea that youtube is censoring alt right is hilarious. If anything their algorithms for suggestions favor them.

Also that article is a bunch of nonsense

Darn propaganda

 

[Twilight Hue]

The only videos I see being removed are one's which blatantly violate the site (18+, child abuse, copyright, etc.)

Do you have any examples of videos being removed? Demonetization and/or changes in the algorithm aren't censorship.

This is still a new change. Givin the way they are pulled forcing redirected search results, makes it very hard to find those videos. There are quite a number of people throughout the internet that testify this is actually the case. The latter, David Seaman being one of them.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Then you need to go reread Orwell because the point of his works went over your head.

I doubt that. It's exactly the direction society is headed.

 

[LuisDantas]

From my observation the demographics of the people who made the largest voter impact on Trump election are people whose idea of "PC" are still sour over gay marriage being legalized outside of state vote. Not people of the age wondering whether or not college campuses think Milo is too much of an *** pimple to be invited to regurgitate his profoundly unenlightening drivel on their floors with official time slots. (Ask how I really feel).
In which case I am of the people who think the first three sentences of the article is more important than the rest of it.

My sentiments exactly.

This is not the first time I heard the idea of "reaction to political correctness run amok" thrown around.

I don't think there is enough respectability to that idea to deserve a response. There is just no excuse to presenting Trump and the "alt-right" as the voice of the victims or whatever.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've heard it here in Canada quite a fair share.

I always find it interesting that it is blamed on people who advocate social justice, rather than those who are hyper-reactionary to social justice.

Lots of people advocate for social justice.
(Even I do!)
That's pretty normal.
The SJW is a small subset.
They're the ones who sound like this....

 

[Twilight Hue]

I always find it interesting that it is blamed on people who advocate social justice, rather than those who are hyper-reactionary to social justice.

A lot of this has manifested past the point of advocacy. It's already affected how media is used, the operation of the legal system and resulting legislation, and already created an intrusive effect on people who themselves otherwise do not share or care for those views being forced upon them.

Things involving hate speech, health, sexual orientation, various educational, and race related issues, all nobel causes in itself, but the SJW and PC problems arose once these things have been aggressively pursued well past its reasonable boundaries and sensibilities to a point of it being a type of "McCarthyism" using nanny state tactics.

There's an ongoing push back now to reign in this form of socially based extremism that already has gone well past its advocacy stage, before it gets anymore out of hand more than it already is.

People are just sick and tired of being railroaded and simply not putting up with it anymore.

 

[Revoltingest]

A lot of this has manifested past the point of advocacy. It's already affected how media is used, the operation of the legal system and resulting legislation, and already created an intrusive effect on people who themselves otherwise do not share or care for those views being forced upon them.

Things involving hate speech, health, sexual orientation, various educational, and race related issues, all nobel causes in itself, but the SJW and PC problems arose once these things have been aggressively pursued well past its reasonable boundaries and sensibilities to a point of it being a type of "McCarthyism" using nanny state tactics.

There's an ongoing push back now to reign in this form of socially based extremism that already has gone well past its advocacy stage, before it gets anymore out of hand more than it already is.

People are just sick and tired of being railroaded and simply not putting up with it anymore.

Ya know.....I didn't think Trump's win had anything to do with SJWs & political correctness.
But more & more, it seems possibly a factor. Trump is the opposite of the PC culture...
...completely incompatible with it. Or maybe perfectly compatible in the sense that
he tweaks their noses, they respond loudly & badly, & he crushes their candidate.
In an unsatisfying world, that's somewhat satisfying.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Ya know.....I didn't think Trump's win had anything to do with SJWs & political correctness.
But more & more, it seems possibly a factor. Trump is the opposite of the PC culture...
...completely incompatible with it. Or maybe perfectly compatible in the sense that
he tweaks their noses, they respond loudly & badly, & he crushes their candidate.
In an unsatisfying world, that's somewhat satisfying.

The Democrat party openly and intimately supported sjw and pc agendas with the backing of political power thinking hey, who in their right mind would be against things involving social and economic inequality primarily based upon a person's race, health, disposition, and gender? It all sounds good. People get elected for those things.

It's since became a virtual marriage through association for which PC and SJW issues soon took on the identity of the Democrats themselves who had embraced and essentially became the movement itself.

It probably would have worked out pretty well had it not been for the incredible overreach and shortsightedness to simply go out and indiscriminately use political powers of the Democrat party and aggressively ban, vilify, and exterminate anything and everything not associated with the ideologies of political correctness and social equality agendas on anybody and everybody under the sun.

When things finally stepped over the line, SJWs and PC proponents were no longer being identified as just a group of people lobbying for reasonable change, it was the Democrat party itself using their own power and influence to bully the cause further than was reasonably needed, and in turn, enraging enough people to the point that Trump got himself in office.

 

[Mister Emu]

I always find it interesting that it is blamed on people who advocate social justice, rather than those who are hyper-reactionary to social justice.

Perhaps if people calling themselves advocates of social justice stopped being condescending racists and sexists, they wouldn't get blamed for backlash?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Trum won because he appeals to the lowest common denominator in the american people.