I am saddened that some of you have less respect for me because of my present support for Trump. But I will not apologize, I will not fall for all the bull ****e vomited forth from the US government over the past umpteen years. We need real Change. Trump represents this. Hillary Clinton represents the status quo, more lies more corruption. No way, no more!
I will endevour not to lose or disrespect you Adra. Its different to talk with people who support Trump than with the myth or sterotype you create in your head. But with Marie le Pen doing well in France and Nigel Farage still a significant presence in the UK, it is very hard for me to avoid the conclusion that Trump is the new face of Fascism. if the UK or possibly even France "flipped" it would create regional problems. But if America goes- that is everybody's problem because of Americas status as a super power.
I'm not going to deny that there needs to be a "real" change in America. There are alot of things wrong. I think you know me better than that. If I were a democrat, I'd probably still be scratching my head between the choice of Sanders-Clinton as "we've been here before" with Obama. But I would seriously question whether Trump offers the change you really want or will finally finish america off.
Well Laika, I am sorry you feel this way. I am an American and I am, at least so far, a supporter of Donald Trump. I am sick of the past seven years of the Borak Obama administrations extreme ideology and political correctness and mamby pambying around all the important issues and problems. Donald Trump is speaking and saying what at least 56% + of Americans are actually thinking. America must become energy independent, our immigration system is deeply inept, hence the call for a temporary halt on some immigration, due to the threat that Islamic extremism from other countries poses until we can improve the vetting system. They hate us and are at war with us, hence ISIS.
I am sick of hearing the lie that "climate change" is the worlds greatest threat. It is a hoax and I will not debate it. Borak Obama is a disgrace and his presidency has been a total disaster. It is his failed administration which has made the way for the rise of Donald Trump. All Hillary Clinton offers is just a continuation of the same old corrupt political system, more than likely, on steroids.
Give me four years in the White House and you'll be begging for Obama back. Trust me.
Obama is a pragmatist. By european standards he's even still pretty right-wing. that's why he's "mamby pambying around all the important issues"; he's looking for low cost, low risk solutions to the problems. that's why he uses drone strikes so much in pakistan and the middle east as it saves american lives even though it does create alot of "collaterial damage" on the ground due to false positives and huge resentment (people can't see the drones so they are living in terror of them). my honest opinion of obama is that he's been a steady hand over the past eight years, but he has utterly failed to live up to expectations that he was elected on. but we need another four to eight years to get through this, or its pretty much all over. whatever chance we may have had will have been wasted and this century will be a write-off.I'm trying to walk away from the thought of a 21st century Stalin as it just makes me want to sit quietly in the corner and cry.
America will become
energy independent probably by about 2035 due to the use of oil shale. it won't be overnight, but it is happening. that is good as it means America can step back from the Middle east.
The American immigration system already has
ideological controls on who can become a US citizen. (I've said it a couple of times in the past week, but I can't become a US citizen, even decades from now because of communist party membership). There are already laws on the statute books that are draconian but simply haven't been used or widely publicised because they are from the McCarthy era.
The problem with ISIL is not simply that "they are at war with you", but they need to **** the US off enough to totally de-stablise the middle east. The US invasion of Iraq in 2003 with a gift for Islamic Fundamentalism and it's unlikely that ISIL could have gained power in the region without it. As Putin said, ISIL fighters largely aren't doing it for the ideological or religious reasons; they are hired mercenaries, and ISIL has control of the oil fields and so can pay them more. If that's right, the US has got it wrong by trying to support the "moderate, democratic opposition" because the mercenaries just go and join ISIL, bringing US hardware with them. ISIL are waging a gurrella campign and terrorism is a way of making us over-react and polarising an already unstable region.
On the immigration thing, I admit "I don't know what to do". There is clearly a deep-seated clash of values and ideologies and it isn't going to dissapear any-time soon. The "best" outcome from our point of view is an "Islamic reformation" which brings the muslim world in line with western, secular and liberal values.sheer military force can't do it- there has to be a bottom-up grass roots movement in the region that pushes back both ISIL and the less dangerous but no more sympathetic Islamic regiemes. The US has been supporting dictatorships in there for too long and there needs to be a re-think about what role America plays in the middle east. ISIL is the result of years, perhaps decades, of American machivellianism over oil. Closing the door on Muslims simply because they are Muslim is both un-american, racist (in so far as we think Muslims=Terrorists) and will send a clear signal to the region that we couldn't care less about their fate and are leaving them at the mercy of ISIL, Assad and co. its a simple "solution" to a complicated and long-term problem. We can say "Je Suis Paris" all we want, but falling back on the White Supremacist view that western lives are more valuable than those of people in the middle east because "it's there fault", "they brought it on themselves" and "why should we care about those who won't help themselves" pretty much hands the region over to ISIL. we admit we've given up on them and if we make Islam the enemy we kill any hope of a peaceful outcome. Even George W Bush described Islam as a "religion of peace". I'd never thought I'd be thinking him a moderate.
I'm sick of hearing "climate change" too. I'm fed up with being told how important it is and I want something done about it. I'm fed up of being told how the world is going to end and why there is nothing I can do. part of me goes "that's my future they're talking about! **** you!" Honestly, The environmental movement has totally mis-played their card by turning climate change into the bogey man and using the "fear" factor. it has handed alot of people over to the "denialist" camp because it is a terrifying idea. environmentalists have to start being pro-active in proposing solutions rather than just fear-mongering. The "debate" on climate change is manipulative on BOTH sides, and yeah, the eco-warriors are pushing a social adgenda based on the assumption of moral superiority which often gets in the way of getting things done.
So I get it. America is in a ****ty, aweful, dark place right now- but I think it will get a hell of a lot worse with Trump knowing the nuclear launch codes.
[gets chills...]
Though I am not an American, nor a Trump supporter, I have my doubts that the Republican party will be destroyed if he gets the nomination. There is a very real possibility that he will secure the nomination and little chance that Bush or Rubio will sneak past him to catch the coveted prize. Likewise, with the Trumpinator having the official backing of the Republican party you would likely see him move to slightly more moderate positions as he would clearly understand that he has a very real chance of becoming POTUS. No doubt the media will be dumbstruck that Republicans will circle the wagons around Trump with former foes singing his praises and congratulating Ted Cruz for being asked to run as VP. Unexpected, Shocking, Unimaginable will probably scream from the headlines as the pundits claim how nobody saw this coming...
I agree with you on this. Its the "nobody saw this coming" nonesense that means people won't act and could let Trump in by under-estimating him and the feriousity of the Republican base. they've had alot of practice over Obama's presidency and they may just be getting warmed up.
