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Trump

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Under the "rule of law" here in the States, one is not a "criminal" unless they are indicted and convinced, neither of which happened with Hilary. Therefore, it appears that you also are of the "Lock her up!" mindset that is basically a "lynch-mob mentality", which if implemented would violate what's found in the Constitution of the United States of America.

The rest of your post ain't any better, btw, but you have made it abundantly clear why you support the utter depravity of the Groper-In-Chief, so thanks for clarifying that for us "morons".

No I have made it clear why he is not a groper which is already factual and what is factual is Hillary covering up for her beloved hubby wubby Bill. But I expect people with no dignity like you to obsess over the details right?

That question was rhetorical as I already know the answer.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No I have made it clear why he is not a groper which is already factual and what is factual is Hillary covering up for her beloved hubby wubby Bill. But I expect people with no dignity like you to obsess over the details right?

That question was rhetorical as I already know the answer.
You have demonstrated two things with the above with one of them being that you jump to unwarranted conclusions since Trump bragged how he can grope women's pu**ies, plus your willingness to use ad hominem insults just because I "obsess over the details".

With the above, you are showing your true colors, and I can rather easily see why you would support someone who has shown that he is morally bankrupt on so many different levels.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
You have demonstrated two things with the above with one of them being that you jump to unwarranted conclusions since Trump bragged how he can grope women's pu**ies, plus your willingness to use ad hominem insults just because I "obsess over the details".

You did not watch the whole video, go watch it. Trump insulted a woman about wearing a translucent skirt not bragging about grabbing her genitals. That is fact and it not up for discussion. If you claim to have watched the whole video then you are not telling the truth or you have serious filters regarding what you perceive. Such is the solipsistic mind.

With the above, you are showing your true colors, and I can rather easily see why you would support someone who has shown that he is morally bankrupt on so many different levels.

Obama was morally bankrupt. He was a racist, rude, and manipulative man who enjoyed belittling others including McCain right after the election and did so in front of congress as an expression of machoness yet nobody complains about this on your side of matters. Being a black man in America does not mean I have to fall for racist, hateful and bigoted ideologies that Democrats are jumping on to for votes.

Trump is a goon and a troll but he is not morally bankrupt. It is something I simply do not have to worry about.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
You did not watch the whole video, go watch it. Trump insulted a woman about wearing a translucent skirt not bragging about grabbing her genitals.
If you actually watch the Access Hollywood video, Trump's comments about groping genitals was made before he got off the bus and met the woman.

Obama was morally bankrupt. He was a racist, rude, and manipulative man who enjoyed belittling others including McCain right after the election and did so in front of congress as an expression of machoness yet nobody complains about this on your side of matters.
That's really quite a s-t-r-e-t-c-h to say the least. And to show your utter hypocrisy above, I on numerous occasions criticized Obama, but I know that this doesn't fit into your stereotype of me. And below you stereotype Democrats and also "bear false witness". You're really on a stereotypical roll here.

Being a black man in America does not mean I have to fall for racist, hateful and bigoted ideologies that Democrats are jumping on to for votes.
I couldn't care less if you're black, white, or purple with pink polka dots, but as you continue to defend Trump with all that he's said and done, then...

And I'll just leave it at that.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
If you actually watch the Access Hollywood video, Trump's comments about groping genitals was made before he got off the bus and met the woman.

I know. You obviously have not watched the video.

That's really quite a s-t-r-e-t-c-h to say the least. And to show your utter hypocrisy above, I on numerous occasions criticized Obama, but I know that this doesn't fit into your stereotype of me. And below you stereotype Democrats and also "bear false witness". You're really on a stereotypical roll here.

I did not stereotype Democrats because if I did I would associate them with their love of the KKK back in the 80s and 90s. Considering how harsh I am on Republicans and Trump I do not see how this would also be a problem for you.

I couldn't care less if you're black, white, or purple with pink polka dots, but as you continue to defend Trump with all that he's said and done, then...

And I'll just leave it at that.

I defend him if he is right and rebuke him if he is wrong. I have enjoyed him enough over the 50% margin to feel satisfied for now. Granted the more he tweets the more frustrated I get but I am fine for now.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Show me concrete proof he was racist..Show me the exact words that he stated where he would be deemed racist...This should be good....

Please forgo anecdotes or BS tabloids I want actual proof.

He spent his entire presidency race baiting, what else is there to say. If you have not turned on the news I feel bad for you, why else would he even speak for Trayvon Martin?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
He spent his entire presidency race baiting, what else is there to say. If you have not turned on the news I feel bad for you, why else would he even speak for Trayvon Martin?


How is his view on the Trayvon situation racist?

You do realize Obama is a person of color.....His wife is a woman of color....Obama's comments on "if I had a son" reflects Obama's relationship as a person of color. So again, what is racist about Obama?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I know. You obviously have not watched the video.
You say "I know", which states that I'm right, and then you come back with that I "have not watched the video" that suggests that I'm wrong?

BTW, I have watched that video probably no less than a dozen times, and I believe you can access it on YouTube, so maybe check it out.

I did not stereotype Democrats because if I did I would associate them with their love of the KKK back in the 80s and 90s.
That not correct. It was the "Southern Democrats" ("Dixiecrats") that had supported the KKK, but that was largely before the 1970's. Because of LBJ's passing of the Civil Rights Acts during the 1960's, those "Southern Democrats" left en masse for the Republican Party.

That reality is obvious if one actually knows why those who label themselves as "Southern Democrats" have gone the way of the dinosaurs. In the 1950's, for example, the South was overwhelmingly Democratic, but now the South is overwhelmingly Republican.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Here's the Access Hollywood recording where Trump talks about groping women, which is found a little over 1/2 way through the recording:
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Read this:

Read: the full text of the Nunes memo

Comey, Hillary Clinton, the DNC colluded and used the FBI to undermine the Trump Presidential campaign. Comey used false evidence to obtain FISA search warrants against Trump associates. Comey later lied about doing so to Trump. Also Comey used the known false Democrat funded dossier as the basis for calling for the Special Prosecutors inquiry into purported Russian interference in the election. In other words, Mueller’s investigation is based on a lie. Worse, these liberals politicized and weaponized the FBI. The FBI should always be impartial and non-political. The Democrats have caused grave harm to our democracy.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Read this:

Read: the full text of the Nunes memo

Comey, Hillary Clinton, the DNC colluded and used the FBI to undermine the Trump Presidential campaign. Comey used false evidence to obtain FISA search warrants against Trump associates. Comey later lied about doing so to Trump. Also Comey used the known false Democrat funded dossier as the basis for calling for the Special Prosecutors inquiry into purported Russian interference in the election. In other words, Mueller’s investigation is based on a lie. Worse, these liberals politicized and weaponized the FBI. The FBI should always be impartial and non-political. The Democrats have caused grave harm to our democracy.

Who paid for it?
During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was

the dossier was not solely funded nor even instigated by the dnc.

the fbi is non-partisan. they have always investigated people with political beliefs. unfortunately this person is now the president of the united states. the FBI obviously didn't keep trump from winning. the fbi should be allowed to complete its investigation without influence.


smoke, mirors, and lying are a con artists bag of tricks. its time for the GOP to keep their hands off the DOJ.


the DOJ doesn't fall under the executive branch
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Of course McCain would tried to self-servingly spin this. He was the one that gave the dossier credence. McCain is just trying to justify his own part in this debacle.


fyi, mccain is a republican; so obviously there are those who want the investigation to go forward.

Not all details in GOP memo help undercut Mueller probe

the patriot act allows for anyone and everyone to be suspect for subversion. cons wanted it too. Let them do their job.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Comey used false evidence to obtain FISA search warrants against Trump associates.
Getting a FISA isn't at all that simple, plus even the last sentence in the Nunes memo says that there was also the evidence against Papadopolos' numerous contacts with the Russians that was involved in getting the warrant.

FISA warrants are many pages long (usually around 30-50 according to a former FBI agent that I listened to last night). They are very detailed, and they are put together by the rank & file, not the heads. Getting a FISA warrant is VERY difficult, thus they do not rely on just hearsay information.

Also, the original FISA warrant was followed by three others, and each renewal requires new information for it to be enacted. By the time of at least the last two, the fact that the Russians were trying to meddle in our election and that some of Trump's staff had contact with them was known through all of our intelligence agencies.

By chance, do you get your news from Fox? I watched some of their coverage yesterday and so much of it was just pure propaganda, conveniently leaving out pertinent information. However, even the conversation between Wallace and another Fox reporter noted that there was some serious flaws with the memo, citing it to be a "Nunes thing".
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Here's the Access Hollywood recording where Trump talks about groping women, which is found a little over 1/2 way through the recording:

I've had women in bars I didn't even know come up to me and put their hand on my bulge and purr in my ear and I didn't cry about it.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I've had women in bars I didn't even know come up to me and put their hand on my bulge and purr in my ear and I didn't cry about it.
To me, it's rather quite pathetic that you excuse the groping of others who may not want that to be done to them.

If you have a daughter, would you say the same thing if someone came up to her and groped her "p***y"? your wife? or is it all just about you?
 
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