McBell
Unbound
Then they all deserve Academy awards for their performances strongly indicating they have no clue.
If Trump was worried about lawfare he should not have been breaking so many laws, right?
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Trump's Conviction and the 6th Amendment.
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McBell
Unbound
I honestly find that hard to believe.
At least based upon your posts about Trumps convictions.
Links to the information have been provided for you left and right and you do not read them.
Why?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It would be cool if they'd display some understanding of it in their posts.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I would advise not sleeping through your trial then, for starters.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
The conviction was clearly 34 counts of falsification of accounting records. What upped the charges from misdemeanor to felony was the intent to use falsified accounting records to commit additional crimes -- a.k.a. election interference, conspiracy, and/or bribery (I believe is the shorthand for the third). Trump and his defense team understood perfectly as they submitted, under oath, that the charges were understood. His campaign team is just playing dumb to get the sympathy of constitutents such as yourself.
By all means, believe in the platform if that is your conscience, but don't let anyone play you false! He knows exactly what's happening! He's a master of the game.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
The judge did not use any of them, and each juror was only required to believe that it was reasonable to believe that Trump intended to violate at least one of the three.
Excellent question. No need for you to go out and research the answer. I googled it for you. Here you are:
Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business Records
If Biden had behaved in the same way as Trump and Bragg had the evidence, I am certain that he would have. He is a professional prosecutor, and that is his job. I suspect that he would perhaps have gotten less personal satisfaction out of prosecuting Biden, but I don't think it would have held him back from indicting Biden. Having the witnesses and evidence and a big fish conviction to put on his resume--that would be too much to pass up.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Well if you can read then you could request a transcript. If not try a text to voice program. Further, Trump would have had to state that he understood the charges before the trial could proceed. Even further he had his high priced lawyers handy to explain anything he didn't understand to him.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The difference is based upon how they relate to the military. Trump has shown that he wants all of the honors of being in the military and none of the sacrifices that being in the military entails. Trump would attack members of the military that he disagreed with and even lie about them and yet say that the military loved him. Do you remember what he said about John McCain? He also attacked a veteran that openly disagreed with him. At a speech he said that he always wanted a purple heart and one of his sycophants gave him one. His actions showed that he was a hypocrite. Biden always acknowledged the sacrifices made by the military, but never pretended that he merited any of their honors:
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I had one but I do not think that my younger brother got one.
McBell
Unbound
Five.
the same number as Trump...
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Complete nonsense, and undoubtedly many have been successfully prosecuted for far less.
Opinions are not facts per se, and it is undeniable that Trump violated numerous laws and was successfully prosecuted and found guilty by his peers. It really is that simple, and it's unfortunate that so many seemingly cannot accept even the most basic facts of these cases. We either are a nation of laws, or we aren't-- pick one.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yep, and all of them for bone spurs. I've had bone spurs before, and they go away on their own or one can speed up the process with a relatively minor procedure.
However, Trump has called those who go into the military as being stupid and those who get injured or killed as "losers".
As informed by right wing disinformation media. They are willfully ignorant. That’s their problem.
Obviously the jury understood the case. That biased right wingers are totally clueless is typical these days.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And a large part of that, imo, comes from the right-wing media, such as Fox and NewsMax.
When the indictments were first publicly announced, I watch about 3 hours of Fox that evening, and they did more Twists than Chubby Checker did all his life. They fell all over themselves trying to conjure up quick excuses to make Trump the victim and the criminal justice system the criminals.
My point is that I'm sure some here get much or most of their "news" from such sources, not that this is a valid excuse. With my poli sci students, I repeatedly told them to always seek out multiple sources and not cherry-pick for "confirmation bias".
Personally, when I first go on-line, I click on Yahoo News because they cite & link from sources all over the political spectrum, and the one thing I won't do is to click on algorithms so as to jest get liberal or conservative websites.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Same can be said for the left.
You know its only half the country that agrees. Remember that as do I.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I watched Fox News on the day the verdict came on as well, just so I could see what sorts of arguments I was going to be coming across on this board. Every talking point I sat through has been repeated here, ad nauseum, since then.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Not on this topic, apparently.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Including this topic.
Unfortunately right wingers call anything that isn’t right wing disinformation as left wing. That includes the most objective and reputable media outlets like the AP and Reuters. Reporting facts objectively is left wing to right wingers.
Yes, half are not well informed.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Who? Where? We've had to spend all our time in this thread explaining how the law works to Trump supporters so .... yeah. I'm not buying it.