How about the major difference of Trump
singularly attempting a coup....to over-turn an
election using conspiracy, fraud, insurrection & fiat?
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Trump's Judge Indefinitely Postpones Trump's Trial In FL
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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singularly attempting a coup....to over-turn an
election using conspiracy, fraud, insurrection & fiat?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I am not going to debate this with you. Sorry.
Are we debating?
I'm trying to ferret out your views.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Whatever you want to call it, I'm done with this particular thread most likely. @Revoltingest It's not holding my interest.
In a sense you are a media partisan, too. You're using an internet forum to offer your perspective as an expert in law, So my question is why your opinion is more accurate and complete than someone hired by a news organization. And you are one voice, and I'm hearing different takes on the documents case and judge Cannon than you offer. You sound more sympathic to judge Cannon doing a status quo job, yet I can't ignore than sjhe has made some bad rulings that have been overturned on appeal. And also that she has avoided making decisions that can be appealed. I'm looking at the pattern of her behavior, and it suggests to me that she is biased towards Trump.
I have heard other legal experts explain how she could manage this trial and protect national security and woitnesses, and move ahead with the case. It concerns me that she could dismiss this case without cause, and Trump would avoid accountability due to double jeopardy protection.
I'm aware that there is judicial review of judges, and there are ways to have them removed from cases, or even removed from a bench. Frankly I see good reason for her to be removed for the sake of public trust. If she were to select a jury, and then dismiss the case as a prejudicial ct for Trump, I've not heard any legal expert expalin how she face any consequences. That is a lot of power and responsibility judges have.
"Suck" is hardly very descriptive -- it is open to so very many interpretations. A little precision would help us understand what you dislike about each (or both) of them.
Really, we here posting on RF are the media? You really don’t see the difference?
And why don’t you answer my question?
Are you really a lawyer? Where did I say any such thing?
I do. You’re the one trying to suggest I said something I didn’t.
What question?
You can’t be helped. You really didn’t see a question in the post you responded to?
☆Dreamwind☆
Active Member
Wish he'd just toss him in jail instead of constantly threatening.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Well I'm pretty sure that Donald uses a straw in his diet soda, Joe may be more adventurous.
Riders
Well-Known Member
So it's possible that this could keep him from running?it's my dream come t r ue.
It.
Read he went off at a rally on Biden again.
The judge who cried wolf?
You certainly aren't helping.
The question where why didn't the prosecutors move to have her removed? Because they need grounds. Don't you understand this?
Your views as an expert on legal matters seems inconsistent with the legal experts hired by CNN, NBC, NpR, and other media that I have viewed. Some things you say are consistent, but not your attitudes about Cannon's actions.
I've been listening to this podcast and it is quite informative. They explain why Cannon can't be removed until she makes another decision on at least one of the many motions she' has before her, and isn't responding to. And she will need to respond in a wat that can be appealed, whic has happened twice already. She has been reversed twice by the 11th ccircuit. If she is reversed a third time THEN there is a basis to move for her removal. She's been avoiding responding to the motions that are piling up. So there's nothing Smith can do. And now that Cannon has postponed the trial we have no idea when, if ever, she will set a date. Judges have a lot of discretion, and they are given trust by the system. There is quite a bit of concern about this judge, and whether it is bias, or inexperience, or both, we aren't certain.
Well, he's laid down the law to Trump, and Trump has kept his mouth shut since. That Trump is trying the judge's patience by asking proxies to speak for him is a new issue. The judge really can't order others to not speak. If Trump does violate the gag order he may not face a punishment until after the trial is over.
As the election relies on what the citizens will decide, the fate of Trump relies on what the jury decides. We may see the trial finish this next week. Trump has only one person to call for defense, and there may be others, but it appears they don't have much to present the jury.
The judge certainly wants to get to the closing arguments without any drama, and he is smart to keep the trial on track and stable. Trump wants instability and chaos, and the judge knows it.
No, you need to dream about American citizens seeing the big picture and voting to re-elect Biden.
Well Trump got plenty of sleep during trial, so he's wide awake for his pro-corruption rallies.
But the gag order does not only prevent Trump from speaking about the witnesses and jury, it also prevents him from "directing others" to speak about the witnesses and jury.
If they are doing so of their own volition, nothing the judge can do about that. But if Trump directs them to go out there and say nasty things about ..., Trump can go to jail for that.
I can see difficulty in concluding that Trump sympathizers were directed versus them claiming they acted independently.
It’s a new type of violation so Trump might be playing games, and I think it’s important to be cautious in getting sucked into Trumps narrative. We sane citizens demanding accountability are impatient and tired of Trump getting away with it. We need to focus on the verdict. And not giving Trump reasons for appeal.
If he gets jail time I predict it will come after the verdict. The judge has been smart not acting as if impulsive, and he seems intent to not bias the jury.