Here’s the ACTUAL Order, folks. A quick reading shows the Court did NOT postpone trial “indefinitely.” So the article and OP are both false. I also find nothing wrong with the Order itself. Do you? If so, cite specifics.
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Trump's Judge Indefinitely Postpones Trump's Trial In FL
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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So every Democrat judge would have to recuse him/herself if a Democrat were a party? Same for Republicans? Nonsense.
On the other hand, rushing through the discovery phases of the CIPA might violate due process.
The court postponed the trial -- and did not pencil in a new date. That is effectively "indefinitely."
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Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
I get it. You don't want to answer my question. I'll try again:
Which judge has stated they want to prosecute Trump? Names please.
Specifically HOW have these judges shown their bias against Trump? Details are required.
McBell
Unbound
i disagree.
It is if you want to see even more double-standards employed....
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What didn't you like about the refutation?
Now that is clearly taken out of context. Once again, that assumes that the condition was that they were aware of the evidence so they know that Trump is guilty. The evidence that has been released to the public is pretty clear. Did you follow his tax fraud trial? It was noncriminal so he faced only monetary losses. In that case both sides asked for a preemptive judgment. That is one where the judge decides guilt or innocence before the trial. Both sides asked for a preemptive judgement and the judge was happy to oblige. Trump was found to be guilty on the evidence that both sides agreed was factual. That can happen in a bench trial. It does not happen in a jury trial. They still went through all of the evidence because the prosecutor wanted a record of it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I know. It's an embarrassment and failure of the justice system that Trump gets the platinum preferential treatment membership card.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Just so you know, he used a bit of a strawman argument. My example was for judges in general. It seems that he thinks that the whole world is ignorant of what went down at Mar a Lago.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I do not think that there has been any rushing at all. The problem appears to be the judge trying to drag this out as long as possible so that it does not occur before the election.
EDIT: Another problem is that she grabbed dates and then has shown that she cannot keep them and that has stalled the other prosecutions that are being attempted. New York was a bit bold and when ahead regardless. I would hope that Georgia follows suit.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Which I think is a disservice to the American People amd a violation of Trump's right to swift and speedy trial. It has to happen and this judge is delaying it, why?
At what point does it become obstruction of justice? At what point does it violate what exact law for needlessly infringing on a right without just cause (I don't think there is a law for violating that specific right. If there is it's rarely enforced)?
Nope. Read it again.
Nothing unusual at all. Are you familiar with how often courts continue dates?
Two quotes from two posters taken out of context and having nothing to do with one another.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Unfortunately this is not a normal case. Trump's trials need to occur before the election for justice to be done. If he is innocent he needs to be found to be so and have his name cleared. If he is guilty allowing him to become President again is a gross miscarriage of justice. This judge should have either worked quickly or conceded her scheduled times to others. Instead she deliberately slow walked the trial and used paperless orders to avoid being overturned. She has no excuse for her actions besides trying to abuse the legal system for Trump.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Which is kind of the point I was making.
Maybe you should read it again -- and if you find that new trial date, let us know. What the judge said is this:
"The Court also determines that finalization of a trial date at this juncture—before resolution of the myriad and interconnected pre-trial and CIPA issues remaining and forthcoming—would be imprudent and inconsistent with the Court’s duty to fully and fairly consider the various pending pre-trial motions before the Court, critical CIPA issues, and additional pretrial and trial preparations necessary to present this case to a jury.6 The Court therefore vacates the current May 20, 2024, trial date (and associated calendar call), to be reset by separate order following resolution of the matters before the Court, consistent with Defendants’ right to due process and the public’s interest in the fair and efficient administration of justice."
The trial date was vacated, and no new trial date set. That is, it was vacated indefinitely. Unless you don't know the meaning of the word indefinitely, that should be clear enough to you.
That’s not how courts work.
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