"Trump's Lies vs. Obama's"

[tytlyf]

You were doing so well, then you cited Snopes. Lol...

Look those cited urls you are sucking up like a hooker doing cocaine have been completely discredited. A cursory search of any of that content reveals contradictory information from what they state nearly every time. Generally, they're lying by omission and have for years.

Fine, I'll play. Take your pick. I'm used to people ignoring facts, some wear it like a badge of honor.

Myth or Fact: Carson Uncovers $500 Billion in HUD Budget Fraud - CarsonWatch
Fact check: Ben Carson didn’t find HUD accounting errors
Carson Didn't Find HUD Errors - FactCheck.org

 

[Twilight Hue]

Fox is all about deception and propaganda. Anyone who watches all media can tell the difference very easily. I understand Fox tells you to never change the channel.
This one?
FOX's file: | PunditFact

It's interesting you use PunditFact as opposed to FactCheck.

Although a different topic, it's worth mentioning here in passing....

Even using the key Search terms specifically mentioning Fact Check with news, honesty, and reliability.

All my hits go to PunditFact instead. Even when I specifically key worded FactCheck.

I think I know the reason why.

Google's Liberal Bias May Be Distorting Your Research

 

[Valjean]

So that's why Hillary is being reinvestigated because she's so honest, Are you freaking kidding me.

Are you referring to the latest e-mail investigation? It's a sham. It's been investigated endless times already-- just like all the other "scandals."
A brief guide to Clinton scandals from Travelgate to Emailgate

This is how the Republicans have been operating for some time now. In the absence of popular support, attack the opposition with endless innuendo and accusations. Generate enough smoke and people will assume there must be fire somewhere.

 

[tytlyf]

It's interesting you use PunditFact as opposed to FactCheck.

Although a different topic, it's worth mentioning here in passing....

Even using the key Search terms specifically mentioning Fact Check with news, honesty, and reliability.

All my hits go to PunditFact instead. Even when I specifically key worded FactCheck.

I think I know the reason why.

Google's Liberal Bias May Be Distorting Your Research

PunditFact is PolitiFact.

I already posted the link to factcheck.org. Here it is again. The only people lying are GOP media (never rely on for factual information).
Carson Didn't Find HUD Errors - FactCheck.org

I've never heard of 'studybreaks.com.' Why should I trust them over a news organization?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Ya, FN and Rush predicted Hillary would lose......


You really believe that.


Nope.
Donald Trump wrong about black homeownership rate

Nope.
FACT CHECK: Did Ben Carson Discover $500 Billion in Accounting Errors at HUD?

Nothing you said is right. Which is why I warn people to not get information from GOP outlets.

Fox is all about deception and propaganda. Anyone who watches all media can tell the difference very easily. I understand Fox tells you to never change the channel.
This one?
FOX's file: | PunditFact

That's why I warn people not to listen to the Mainstream fake news media.

They are always putting forth fake news.

I have a question for you, why would you Support a Party such as the DNC that fought back in the Civil war of 1863 to keep African Americans in Slavery. And the KKK joined in with the DNC to help keep Slavery

It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who gave the African Americans their freedom.
Following the civil war, Radical Republicans in Congress introduced a series of laws and Constitutional Amendments to try to secure Civil and Political rights for black people.

This right wing of the Republican Party was called " Radical" because of it's strong stance on these and other issues. The right that Provoked the greatest controversy especially in the North, concerned black male suffrage: The right of black men to vote.
In 1867, Congress passed a law requiring the former Confederate States to include black male suffrage in their State constitutions,
Ironically, even though African American men began voting in the South after 1867,
The majority of Northern States continued to deny them this basic right.

In the North, The Republican's once-hude voter majority over the Democratic Party was declining.
Radical Republican leaders feared that they might lose control of Congress to the Democrates.

In May 1868, The Republicans held their presidential nominating convention in Chicago and chose Ulysses S. Grant, as their candidate.
The Republicans agreed that African American male suffrage.

Thereby Republican President Ulysses S.Grant in 1869, The Republican Party gave African American male the right to vote,
Which the Democrates were against.

Now as to why African Americans would vote Democrate. Which does not make any sense at all.
Seeing it was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who freed blacks, and Republican President Ulysses S. Grant that gave African American males the right to vote.

This is the reason why I will not vote democrate no longer, after 45 yrs of Supporting the democrates and then finding out that Democrates are the ones who fought to keep blacks in Slavery. I will no longer Support the DNC.
The KKK joined the DNC convention back in 1923. And the grand wizard leader of the KKK was a Democrate Senator and Hillary Clinton is seen having her picture taken with him, congratulating him on his retirement from democratic Senator.

What's up with all that Go Figure.

 

[Stevicus]

Sorry, I assumed you knew that incumbent president Bush was running against Clinton. That it was the Bush administration trying to get NAFTA through Congress, and not really having any trouble.

It wasn't getting through Congress, and there was a good deal of opposition, not just from the unions. There were other people in this country who wanted NAFTA to pass, not just Bush. I assumed you knew that.

 

[oldbadger]

Obama one of our best?
Nah....
While I give him credit for not starting a war,
he did some pretty messed up things.
He was more of a Jimmy Carter (but more
damaging) than an Abraham Lincoln.

Former President Obama was amazing, and many of his wonderful policies got obstructed by careless right-wingers.

I've been telling you for many years how amazing he has been but you would not hear a word of it. That could be why Big-G sent Mr Trump to the White House, to cause irritation to Revolting every day.

Just keep scratching.........

 

[oldbadger]

That's why I warn people not to listen to the Mainstream fake news media.

They are always putting forth fake news.

That's Fake News...... right there!

It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who gave the African Americans their freedom.
Following the civil war, Radical Republicans in Congress introduced a series of laws and Constitutional Amendments to try to secure Civil and Political rights for black people.

Does that irritate you?

This right wing of the Republican Party was called " Radical" because of it's strong stance on these and other issues. The right that Provoked the greatest controversy especially in the North, concerned black male suffrage: The right of black men to vote.

So what caused the Republicans to change so much since those days?

In the North, The Republican's once-hude voter majority over the Democratic Party was declining.
Radical Republican leaders feared that they might lose control of Congress to the Democrates.

In May 1868, The Republicans held their presidential nominating convention in Chago and chose Ulysses S. Grant, as their candidate.
The Republicans agreed that African American male suffrage.

This proves that Leopards can and do change their spots, mate.

This is the reason why I will not vote democrate no longer, after 45 yrs of Supporting the democrates and then finding out that Democrates are the ones who fought to keep blacks in Slavery. I will no longer Support the DNC.
The KKK joined the DNC convention back in 1923. And the grand wizard leader of the KKK was a Democrate Senator and Hillary Clinton is seen having her picture taken with him, congratulating him on his retirement from democratic Senator.

And so, despite all the wonderful humanitarian democratic policies that the Repubicans fought and gave their lives for, as shown above, written large in the history of your country, you were ignorant of all these facts for 45 years?

And you think that Right-Wing, Republicans would support all these Democrat policies now?

I like your posts. They make me smile!
They make me laugh out loud.

 

[Faithofchristian]

That's Fake News...... right there!


Does that irritate you?

No it does not irritate me, it just shows how far out on left field democrates are.

It shows how democrates have not changed their attitudes of the African Americans.
Democrates had 8yrs to do something for the African Americans communication and did nothing, but give to the Illegal immigrants and Muslims. All the while black communitys are still in proverty.

So what caused the Republicans to change so much since those days?

Republicans have not changed since those days. It's Republicans who still are and wanting to left the black communitys out of Proverty.
While democrates still by pass them, Except wanting their votes and leave the black communitys holding the shaft.


This proves that Leopards can and do change their spots, mate.


And so, despite all the wonderful humanitarian democratic policies that the Repubicans fought and gave their lives for, as shown above, written large in the history of your country, you were ignorant of all these facts for 45 years?

You talk about being Funny, That is way to funny, Democrates humanitarian policies.
Yeah for everyone else, But the American people. It was those Liberal democrates Supporters, who were out burning the American flag and destroying other people's Property. And you call that a good democrate, Ok What ever. Mate

And you think that Right-Wing, Republicans would support all these Democrat policies now?
What Democrate policies, The only policies democrates have is the obstruction of justice, Hillary Clinton lied to the FBI many times and nothing happened, Flynn lied and the democrates go after him and you call the democrates policies to be good.
Are you freaking kidding me, Mate.

I like your posts. They make me smile!
They make me laugh out loud.

 

[Valjean]

I have a question for you, why would you Support a Party such as the DNC that fought back in the Civil war of 1863 to keep African Americans in Slavery. And the KKK joined in with the DNC to help keep Slavery

It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who gave the African Americans their freedom.
Following the civil war, Radical Republicans in Congress introduced a series of laws and Constitutional Amendments to try to secure Civil and Political rights for black people.

This right wing of the Republican Party was called " Radical" because of it's strong stance on these and other issues. The right that Provoked the greatest controversy especially in the North, concerned black male suffrage: The right of black men to vote.
In 1867, Congress passed a law requiring the former Confederate States to include black male suffrage in their State constitutions,
Ironically, even though African American men began voting in the South after 1867,
The majority of Northern States continued to deny them this basic right.

In the North, The Republican's once-hude voter majority over the Democratic Party was declining.
Radical Republican leaders feared that they might lose control of Congress to the Democrates.

In May 1868, The Republicans held their presidential nominating convention in Chicago and chose Ulysses S. Grant, as their candidate.
The Republicans agreed that African American male suffrage.

Thereby Republican President Ulysses S.Grant in 1869, The Republican Party gave African American male the right to vote,
Which the Democrates were against.

Now as to why African Americans would vote Democrate. Which does not make any sense at all.
Seeing it was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who freed blacks, and Republican President Ulysses S. Grant that gave African American males the right to vote.

While the name's remained the same, I think it's pretty well known that the 'progressive' platform moved from the Republicans to the Democrats a long time ago.

This is the reason why I will not vote democrate no longer, after 45 yrs of Supporting the democrates and then finding out that Democrates are the ones who fought to keep blacks in Slavery. I will no longer Support the DNC.
The KKK joined the DNC convention back in 1923. And the grand wizard leader of the KKK was a Democrate Senator and Hillary Clinton is seen having her picture taken with him, congratulating him on his retirement from democratic Senator.

What's up with all that Go Figure.

A lot's happened since reconstruction, Faithofchristian. For over a century now it's been the progressives who've supported human rights, and that translates, in most cases, to the Democrats.
The Republicans opposed woman's suffrage, labor rights, desegregation, minimum wage, fair housing, civil rights -- pretty much every pro social, pro human policy ever proposed.

Whatever the Republicans may have been at one time, they are no longer that. They are conventionalists, and support the moneyed interests that support them.

 

[oldbadger]

@Faithofchristian
Your post didn't open up..... but I did read that you think Democrats are far out on the left, and presumably you think that Republicans are moderates.

That is a very distorted political view, imo.

If you don't believe in medicare for all, education for all, child support for all, disabled support for all, a living wage for all........ then you are probably a right-winger, but surely not a moderate?

 

[Faithofchristian]

@Faithofchristian
Your post didn't open up..... but I did read that you think Democrats are far out on the left, and presumably you think that Republicans are moderates.

That is a very distorted political view, imo.

If you don't believe in medicare for all, education for all, child support for all, disabled support for all, a living wage for all........ then you are probably a right-winger, but surely not a moderate?

First of, Who exactly are you referring to, Medicare for all, For the American people, Yes, but that is not what the democrates wants,
Democrates wants the American people out of their tax dollars to pay for Illegal immigrants and Muslims Medicare expense. But you think that is ok, Hell No it's not ok, I am not going to pay out of my tax dollars for someone else to lay back and do nothing.
All the while we have Black communitys that could themselves use that money to help them.
What you mean is, As do democrates, give child support to Illegal immigrants and Muslim children, All the while the American children do without.

You know absolutely nothing about me,
For 45 yrs I was a strong democrate supporter, until I woke my but up to the under handed working of the democratic party.
When Hillary lost the election, Who was it that was out Destroying other people's Property, and setting buildings on fire.

Oh that's right is was those Supporters of hillarys Liberal democrates.

Who was it telling her Supporters to resist.
Oh that's right, it was Hillary Supporting her Supporters that were out Destroying other people's Property.
But the funny thing was, Those Supporters of hillarys, were out Destroying other Liberal democrates Property and setting fire to buildings that were owned by Liberal democrates. What's up with all that.

And what about those collage people, who were setting fire and destroying their own collage buildings, Are you freaking kidding me. I just wonder, when these people are at home, if they don't do the same with their own home, setting it on fire.
That's the logic of Liberal Democrates.
What's that all about.

Why is it that everything that Liberal democrates Support's, That God is against.

Liberal democrates took Christmas out. And President Donald Trump brings Christmas back.

You what else is amazing, Is when people referring to President Donald Trump as being a Republican,When the n fact Donald Trump never said he was a Republican

All President Donald Trump said was, That he like the Republican platform. What they stood by and for.

Little do people know, that Donald Trump was raised being a Democrate. But as he got older, Donald Trump realized that Democrates were not what they were claiming to be.

The same with me, As I got older I soon realizing that the democratic party was not, what they were claiming to be. After being a strong democrate supporter for 45 years.
Seeing how democrates to day have gone way out of the way what the democratic party use to be.

Democrate President JFK had this to say, for the American people.
"Ask not what your Country can do for you, But ask what you can do for your Country"

To day the democratic party, tells people hey come ask your Country what it can do for you.
We will do what ever for you, As long as you give us your vote.
So People sale themselves over to the Democratic party.
Well I am not for sale nor is my vote, I will vote to who I want and that is no one's business but mine. I am not for sale.

 

[oldbadger]

First of, Who exactly are you referring to, Medicare for all, For the American people, Yes, but that is not what the democrates wants,

That's what Former President Obama wanted, and you folks (Right-wingers) want to stop it all.

Democrates wants the American people out of their tax dollars to pay for Illegal immigrants and Muslims Medicare expense. But you think that is ok, Hell No it's not ok, I am not going to pay out of my tax dollars for someone else to lay back and do nothing.

US Muslims have as many rights as you do.
I don't think you want to pay out your tax dollars for any of my list, imo.

All the while we have Black communitys that could themselves use that money to help them.
What you mean is, As do democrates, give child support to Illegal immigrants and Muslim children, All the while the American children do without.

You don't like Muslim folks, do you.
In the UK our laws would stop you from picking on Muslims or any other relgions, cultures, races etc that you don't like.

You know absolutely nothing about me

Yes I do....... you lived for 45 years in ignorance about how wonderful the Republicans were 200+ years ago.

Oh that's right is was those Supporters of hillarys Liberal democrates.

HC is not the Democrats of the US.
With any luck a better will stand, next time, and there is going to be a next time.

Who was it telling her Supporters to resist.
Oh that's right, it was Hillary Supporting her Supporters that were out Destroying other people's Property.
But the funny thing was, Those Supporters of hillarys, were out Destroying other Liberal democrates Property and setting fire to buildings that were owned by Liberal democrates. What's up with all that.

And what about those collage people, who were setting fire and destroying their own collage buildings, Are you freaking kidding me. I just wonder, when these people are at home, if they don't do the same with their own home, setting it on fire.
That's the logic of Liberal Democrates.
What's that all about.

Look...... wake up......... the Democrats will win the next two Presidencies, and with any luck they will be powerful enough in Congress to ensure that US folks get a living wage, medicare, education, disability medicare, child-care throughout your land.

And 'yes', your tax dollars are going to provide, like all other US tax dollars.

Rant, scream, argue all you like........ it's going to happen.

 

[Faithofchristian]

That's what Former President Obama wanted, and you folks (Right-wingers) want to stop it all.

That's because, what Obama wanted was not in the best interest of the American people. Obama wanted to give to those who were coming into our country Illegal.
And expect the American people to pay out of their tax dollars to support those Illegals.


US Muslims have as many rights as you do.
I don't think you want to pay out your tax dollars for any of my list, imo.

I will not work for my tax dollars to pay for someone who has no intention of working.


You don't like Muslim folks, do you.
In the UK our laws would stop you from picking on Muslims or any other relgions, cultures, races etc that you don't like.

Had you any ideas, what Muslims are about, unto which you do not have any idea about the Agenda's of Muslims.


Yes I do....... you lived for 45 years in ignorance about how wonderful the Republicans were 200+ years ago.

For your information, since you can not get things Right, I said I was Democrate for 45 years. And it soon didn't take me long to see the Criminal of Corruption of the Democrates.


HC is not the Democrats of the US.
With any luck a better will stand, next time, and there is going to be a next time.

That is Right, Since those who supported Trump, will stand to support him again.

Seeing how the UK is falling apart and you can't even see it. Soon you will be over run with Muslims taking over your Country.

The only reason, why Muslims do not try things here in the U.S.A. is because they know, That we have the Right to bare arms. In our country, so for anyone to come here and to think, they can push us around, they better think again on that one.

Oh democrates would very well, like to do away with our 2nd Amendment Right. To leave us defenceless, But little do democrates realize that would cause a war like the democrates have never seen in this Country before.
This is why our founding fathers, put the 2nd Amendment there for, So when ever this Government begins to think to over run the American people, we have the means to fight back.
And we will fight to keep that 2nd Amendment of our Constitution there intact.
So if Muslims or anyone else, wants to come to live, that's Ok, as long as they abide by our laws and Constitution. Then everything will be ok.
But when Muslims comes here, thinking that we are to liver according to them, Well that will be the time for them to leave our country.
We have our laws, we do not need nor want someone else to come here, thinking that we are to live their way, That is not how it works, No People who come here, live by our laws.and that's final.



Look...... wake up......... the Democrats will win the next two Presidencies, and with any luck they will be powerful enough in Congress to ensure that US folks get a living wage, medicare, education, disability medicare, child-care throughout your land.

And 'yes', your tax dollars are going to provide, like all other US tax dollars.

Rant, scream, argue all you like........ it's going to happen.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've been telling you for many years how amazing he has been but you would not hear a word of it.

Oh, I hear you.
I also hear dogs barking at cars.
But neither is convincing of anything.

 

[tytlyf]

That's why I warn people not to listen to the Mainstream fake news media

You tell people that because GOP media tells you that.

They are always putting forth fake news.

Actually they're not, got an example?

I have a question for you, why would you Support a Party such as the DNC that fought back in the Civil war of 1863 to keep African Americans in Slavery. And the KKK joined in with the DNC to help keep Slavery

Because the party isn't the same as it used to be. Back then, conservatives were DemoKKKrats. The democratic party kicked them out and now they live in the republican party.

It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who gave the African Americans their freedom.
Following the civil war, Radical Republicans in Congress introduced a series of laws and Constitutional Amendments to try to secure Civil and Political rights for black people.

Correct, back then republicans were progressives. Not conservative DemoKKKrats.

This right wing of the Republican Party was called " Radical" because of it's strong stance on these and other issues. The right that Provoked the greatest controversy especially in the North, concerned black male suffrage: The right of black men to vote.
In 1867, Congress passed a law requiring the former Confederate States to include black male suffrage in their State constitutions,
Ironically, even though African American men began voting in the South after 1867,
The majority of Northern States continued to deny them this basic right.

Correct, republicans in the north were progressives. Democrats in the south were conservatives.

Thereby Republican President Ulysses S.Grant in 1869, The Republican Party gave African American male the right to vote,
Which the Democrates were against.

And to this day conservatives still are angry they can vote.

Now as to why African Americans would vote Democrate. Which does not make any sense at all.
Seeing it was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who freed blacks, and Republican President Ulysses S. Grant that gave African American males the right to vote.

Most people in the middle class vote democratic.

This is the reason why I will not vote democrate no longer, after 45 yrs of Supporting the democrates and then finding out that Democrates are the ones who fought to keep blacks in Slavery. I will no longer Support the DNC.

But you don't understand history. You are wrong again.

The KKK joined the DNC convention back in 1923. And the grand wizard leader of the KKK was a Democrate Senator and Hillary Clinton is seen having her picture taken with him, congratulating him on his retirement from democratic Senator.

Correct, Senator Byrd was a member of the demoKKKrat party prior the party switch. He changed his ways and didn't switch parties when conservatives were moving to the republican party.

What's up with all that Go Figure.

What's up with what? I warned you to not get information from GOP media. You are wrong again.

 

[metis]

This is the reason why I will not vote democrate no longer, after 45 yrs of Supporting the democrates and then finding out that Democrates are the ones who fought to keep blacks in Slavery. I will no longer Support the DNC.
The KKK joined the DNC convention back in 1923. And the grand wizard leader of the KKK was a Democrate Senator and Hillary Clinton is seen having her picture taken with him, congratulating him on his retirement from democratic Senator.

This same element became known as the "Southern Democrats" or "Dixiecrats. Where are they now? Answer: they almost entirely became Republicans.

How that happened is that FDR changed the Democratic Party from being more conservative than the Republicans to becoming more liberal during the New Deal that created many different safety-net programs and fought for more equal civil-rights legislation to go against the repressive Jim Crow Laws. However, in the South they didn't buy into FDR's liberalness, and for decades they often voted against "liberal" measures while still largely remaining [Southern] Democrats. However, it was in the 1960's and the passing of LBJ's Civil Rights Acts whereas these people broke off and switched en masse to the Republican Party where they are today.

 

[oldbadger]

Had you any ideas, what Muslims are about, unto which you do not have any idea about the Agenda's of Muslims.

You are mixing your posts up with mine and the whole lot is hidden because of that....... which is quite handy really, 'cos...... damn..... it's a bit of a rant, man!

In your post you did not support the ideas of child care, child medicare, child education until adult age, and disabled care from birth for whole-life. Now you really should pay up for all of that if, for instance, you support all pro-life for all pregnancies. Yes?

As for you very strange promises to make some kind of war in your own country if better gun controls are legislated, you do understand that Christians are all ordered by the Divine Words of your God through the Ordained Apostle Paul to obey the laws of your own lands, so legislation through Congress would be included in that.

And since over 80 people die EACH DAY in your country by guns you might like to consider further reasonable legislation.

And do start thinking about everybody in your country...... it seems as if that might be the Christian thing to do..... yes?

 

[oldbadger]

Oh, I hear you.
I also hear dogs barking at cars.
But neither is convincing of anything.

Take a tip from me. If there is a nasty ol' dawg barking outside your car (Traction Engine?) don't get out!

And you know that Former President Obama's name and reputation is going to rise, and rise, and rise.......... right on into the future. Just keep scratching....!

 

[Koldo]

That's why I warn people not to listen to the Mainstream fake news media.

They are always putting forth fake news.

I have a question for you, why would you Support a Party such as the DNC that fought back in the Civil war of 1863 to keep African Americans in Slavery. And the KKK joined in with the DNC to help keep Slavery

It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who gave the African Americans their freedom.
Following the civil war, Radical Republicans in Congress introduced a series of laws and Constitutional Amendments to try to secure Civil and Political rights for black people.

This right wing of the Republican Party was called " Radical" because of it's strong stance on these and other issues. The right that Provoked the greatest controversy especially in the North, concerned black male suffrage: The right of black men to vote.
In 1867, Congress passed a law requiring the former Confederate States to include black male suffrage in their State constitutions,
Ironically, even though African American men began voting in the South after 1867,
The majority of Northern States continued to deny them this basic right.

In the North, The Republican's once-hude voter majority over the Democratic Party was declining.
Radical Republican leaders feared that they might lose control of Congress to the Democrates.

In May 1868, The Republicans held their presidential nominating convention in Chicago and chose Ulysses S. Grant, as their candidate.
The Republicans agreed that African American male suffrage.

Thereby Republican President Ulysses S.Grant in 1869, The Republican Party gave African American male the right to vote,
Which the Democrates were against.

Now as to why African Americans would vote Democrate. Which does not make any sense at all.
Seeing it was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who freed blacks, and Republican President Ulysses S. Grant that gave African American males the right to vote.

This is the reason why I will not vote democrate no longer, after 45 yrs of Supporting the democrates and then finding out that Democrates are the ones who fought to keep blacks in Slavery. I will no longer Support the DNC.
The KKK joined the DNC convention back in 1923. And the grand wizard leader of the KKK was a Democrate Senator and Hillary Clinton is seen having her picture taken with him, congratulating him on his retirement from democratic Senator.

What's up with all that Go Figure.

So, let me get this straight :
You mostly oppose the Democrats because of what they did nearly a hundred of years ago.
And you only found out about this after 45 years of supporting the Democrats.

What?!

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I don't think there are enough facepalm images in the internet to express my feelings at this moment.