Trump's supporters are trying to intimidate voters

[Mindmaster]

So we've had voting going on for a while now.
I've not seen anything in the news about Trumpets intimidating
anyone, other than partisan claims that this will happen.
Anyone got anything yet?

Nope, but I mean how can you even do that? You can mail your vote in, and you can do early voting right now in most places. Even if one party had people camping in front of every ballot box you'd be able to vote. This stuff is nonsense, and false victimhood.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nope, but I mean how can you even do that? You can mail your vote in, and you can do early voting right now in most places. Even if one party had people camping in front of every ballot box you'd be able to vote. This stuff is nonsense, and false victimhood.

There's always the possibility of actions like the Black Panthers took.
I just wondered if Democratic claims have materialized yet.

 

[Mindmaster]

There's always the possibility of actions like the Black Panthers took.
I just wondered if Democratic claims have materialized yet.

It's more likely that Democrats are involved in voter suppression/fraud than anyone else, if we go to historical evidence to come up with our opinion.

If a voter machine breaks, it'll vote Democrat.

Dead people only vote Democrat.

If ballots are lost, they are Republican.

If violence is used during a political event, no doubt, they are Democrat.

I see a pattern, lol.

It is common for the lefties to do exactly what they blame others for.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's more likely that Democrats are involved in voter suppression/fraud than anyone else, if we go to historical evidence to come up with our opinion.

If a voter machine breaks, it'll vote Democrat.

Dead people only vote Democrat.

If ballots are lost, they are Republican.

If violence is used during a political event, no doubt, they are Democrat.

I see a pattern, lol.

It is common for the lefties to do exactly what they blame others for.

I see what you mean.
But I've not compared various partisan shenanigans enuf to say who is worst.
Still, I think the DNC takes the cake this time around, with their hiring others to foment violence at Trump rallies.

 

[Mindmaster]

I see what you mean.
But I've not compared various partisan shenanigans enuf to say who is worst.
Still, I think the DNC takes the cake this time around, with their hiring others to foment violence at Trump rallies.

It's hard to be vote Democrat after Project Veritas, you really gotta work at it.

 

[Scuba Pete]

It's more likely that Democrats are involved in voter suppression/fraud than anyone else, if we go to historical evidence to come up with our opinion.

If a voter machine breaks, it'll vote Democrat.

Dead people only vote Democrat.

If ballots are lost, they are Republican.

If violence is used during a political event, no doubt, they are Democrat.

I see a pattern, lol.

Nothing but FUDDD: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt, Distortion and Defamation. Pretty typical from you to make these baseless claims and provide absolutely no substantiation. That's how rumors take on the appearance of fact through rationem repetens. Say it enough and people believe your schlock.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nothing but FUDDD: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt, Distortion and Defamation. Pretty typical from you to make these baseless claims and provide absolutely no substantiation. That's how rumors take on the appearance of fact through rationem repetens. Say it enough and people believe your schlock.

You really ought'a keep it about the issues.
To instead personally attack a poster weakens your opposition.
I know you can do better (above average intelligence & all).

Substantiation?
Listen to the recordings, & look at the subsequent resignations after the revelations.

 

[Kapalika]

Satanism doesn't have a path of progression, so I've just grown past it. My spirituality just cannot be contained in such a tiny box anymore, no hard feelings, lol. I'd discuss more about it on another thread or something, sort of OT here.

Anyway, the forum wasn't intolerant to right views when I came here. Not at all, It's a new thing that's only been going on for a year or two. I know people here who hide their political interests for fear of persecution and losing friends here. I'm just an alpha male, and resist attempts to blend or sheep into the local forum views at the expense of my own. If the requirement for me to be someones friend is to become a sycophant I'll past. If someone takes that as hostility, their brain damage isn't my problem.

It doesn't just go to right views, but rather any views that don't sit with the bleeding heart leftists. I'm not even right or alt-right, or far right... I'm a Libertarian! If you think I'm bad you wouldn't even be able to deal with a normal Republican in any way. There are plenty of points that I wouldn't agree with a 100% conservative on, but I don't feel enmity with people just because they don't agree.

Extreme left: I hate you because you're a Nazi.

Extreme right: I hate you because you're not a Nazi.

If this was true @Revoltingest would be unpopular yet he is pretty popular overall. At least, one of my favorite posters despite our disagreements.

I used to be a Liberterian. And I don't really see how you are one, whereas with he, I can see it.

Now days I am just whatever. I just think that we need some economic models more in the interest of the poor so they have a way to climb out, seeing as how hard work doesn't equate to success in our current system. I only came to that realization after hard work wasn't enough for me to climb out... sometimes you gotta experience it to know it. And god knows I've lived in the top 2% of earners as well as poverty. So I've seen the entire spectrum and so have a wider perspective than most. Maybe I'm not the most liberal on economic policies, but damn am I on social polices which I think both liberals and libertarians should be able to agree a lot on.

With that said, there are even white supremacists saying they will commit violent acts if Trump looses. I've yet to see any claims that Hillary supporters will do the same.

 

[Scuba Pete]

You really ought'a keep it about the issues.

Trump's entire campaign has been built on FUDDD. When people regurgitate that smaltz, it should be pointed out. It's like the energizer rumor... it keeps going and going and going...

 

[Mindmaster]

If this was true @Revoltingest would be unpopular yet he is pretty popular overall. At least, one of my favorite posters despite our disagreements.

--chopped--

With that said, there are even white supremacists saying they will commit violent acts if Trump looses. I've yet to see any claims that Hillary supporters will do the same.

You need to watch them Project Veritas videos. Anyway, you can't pick who votes what and you're not responsible for them. Nation of Islam. La Raza, and New Black Panthers (racists) tend to vote Democrat. The KKK was actually founded to be enforcers for southern Democrats, and Hillary had many friends over there. (see: Robert Byrd.) Again, this is more accusing your opponent of what you do. After the Democrats started trapping the African-American vote, the white supremacists started voting Republican -- the racists in the Democratic party didn't switch sides.

I consider a candidates racism irrelevant, because we've had many racist Presidents in the past. They didn't go form a lynch mob, they just did their damn job. I know some real ones, and they keep it tucked at work or out in public. They know the view isn't popular. Of course, Trump wasn't a racist until he ran against Hillary -- such hypocrisy.

I don't think you know what the word Libertarian means, there are very specific ideological concepts that go into that. Many of these ideas are modified situationally, but the gist:

No one really lines up 100% on this or anything, but it's a general guideline. As far as who sees what, or accepts what I am is irrelevant. I've been 100% a straight Libertarian for about 20 years of my life. I feel differently on an issue here or there, but I'm not your Republican boogieman.

I don't align with liberals because they don't know when to stop, mostly. The only part of liberalism I can agree with is that you should be left to do/be what you want provided you aren't harming anyone else. After that, it's worthless to me... Virtual signaling, micro-aggressions, fake racism narratives, and silly identity and gender arguments. None of that stuff is relevant to me in a political context because they are personal choices.

 

[Revoltingest]

If this was true @Revoltingest would be unpopular yet he is pretty popular overall. At least, one of my favorite posters despite our disagreements.

Aw, gosh...thanx!
But being vocal about very out there beliefs can earn one great enmity.
To be told to choke to death on my own bile by one of staff was a surprise.
Sure, the forum leans left, & can be a tad intolerant. But no one's perfect.
On the whole, it's pretty good here. But a thick skin & a sense of humor help.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump's entire campaign has been built on FUDDD. When people regurgitate that smaltz, it should be pointed out. It's like the energizer rumor... it keeps going and going and going...

Much of his campaign has been such, but you should read his positions.
Some of it is more boring. Some of it is even good (2nd Amendment).
The same can even be said of Hillary, btw.

 

[idav]

The intimidation continues and democrats from four states are seeking lawsuit for Stones "stop the steal".
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats-accuse-gop-donald-trump-of-voter-intimidation-in-four-states/

 

[Revoltingest]

The intimidation continues and democrats from four states are seeking lawsuit for Stones "stop the steal".
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats-accuse-gop-donald-trump-of-voter-intimidation-in-four-states/

The linked article is about Democratic claims of intent to intimidate.
Where's the evidence that it "continues"?
I've asked for (& seen none) that it even started.

 

[idav]

The linked article is about Democratic claims of intent to intimidate.
Where's the evidence that it "continues"?
I've asked for (& seen none) that it even started.

Hey I'm intimidated, some trumpeters trying to take down the Hillary paraphernalia, thank goodness they were arrested. I was in fear for my opinion! Thank goodness over here we are mostly Latinos but I worry about Arizona, not always friendly under normal circumstances.

 

[ShivaFan]

The establishment has be exposed by the various Wikileaks dumps as trying to intimidate all of the Americans who have had enough of the corruption from the current government class and their benefactors - this includes intimidation of Trump supporters including hiring goons to break into fights at various freedom rallies and to violently attack them in the parking lots, beating up homeless forexample in Hollywood for supporting Trump, and attacking Sanders supporters and staged propaganda orchestrated with the help of their corporate MSM.

They will not stop this movement even with their violence and attacks. This is another American revolution we are seeing, in digital form and dressed up like Indians.

 

[Perditus]

Trump's supporters are trying to intimidate voters

Clinton's supporters are physically attacking Trump supporters.

Which is worse? Verbal or physical intimidation?

 

[idav]

The establishment has be exposed by the various Wikileaks dumps as trying to intimidate all of the Americans who have had enough of the corruption from the current government class and their benefactors - this includes intimidation of Trump supporters including hiring goons to break into fights at various freedom rallies and to violently attack them in the parking lots, beating up homeless forexample in Hollywood for supporting Trump, and attacking Sanders supporters and staged propaganda orchestrated with the help of their corporate MSM.

They will not stop this movement even with their violence and attacks. This is another American revolution we are seeing, in digital form and dressed up like Indians.

Shows that Trump is a goon when he advocates voter intimidation. Hillary does not advocate anything of he sort. We have trumps own mouth vs hearsay about Hillary.

 

[Kapalika]

Clinton's supporters are physically attacking Trump supporters.

Which is worse? Verbal or physical intimidation?

I assume you have some kind of proof?

And even if there is a couple of cases, it's not like Clinton encouraged anyone to intimidate, where as Trump did.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hey I'm intimidated, some trumpeters trying to take down the Hillary paraphernalia, thank goodness they were arrested. I was in fear for my opinion! Thank goodness over here we are mostly Latinos but I worry about Arizona, not always friendly under normal circumstances.

That's not voter intimidation.
Moreover, both sides endure such shenanigans, so it makes no sense to point a finger at one, when the other would be hoist by the same petard.

Let us not forget that dirtbags supporting a candidate should not determine our vote.
It's fun to hate people on the other side, especially when they deserve it, but it shouldn't distract us from issues & candidate agendas....there is much to either like or fear there, & it matters so much more.