Trump's supporters are trying to intimidate voters

[idav]

I think the goon is one who mistakes and creates illusionary things such as "advocates voter intimidation" when all he's done is advocate "voter awareness."

More because telling trumpeters to poll watch is illegal.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/poll-watcher-ballot-access-lawsuits/index.html
Now Trump trolls telling minorities to text their vote for Hillary. Voter suppression coming from Republicans is horrendous.
http://www.diversityinc.com/news/trump-twitter-text-vote/

 

[Scuba Pete]

Ohio judge put an injunction on them today. I fear there will be violence this time. I've already voted and I saw some stats last Tuesday that over a third of the eligible voters have already voted in our county. they were only expecting about a 50% turn out, so we're way ahead of the expected.

 

[Lighthouse]

More because telling trumpeters to poll watch is illegal.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/politics/poll-watcher-ballot-access-lawsuits/index.html
Now Trump trolls telling minorities to text their vote for Hillary. Voter suppression coming from Republicans is horrendous.
http://www.diversityinc.com/news/trump-twitter-text-vote/

Poll watching isn't illegal.

Intimidation and deterrence would be. Many are actors in politics.

Glorifying something bigger than what it is. If people really are that weak minded to be that vulnerable, why vote in the first place? Just a bunch of fear for fear.

 

[fantome profane]

Poll watching isn't illegal.

It is if the RNC is involved. There is a legal ruling against them doing things like this. It is kind of like a restraining order.

Donald Trump May Be Violating RNC Consent Decree Aimed at Voter Intimidation

And there are other general laws about what you can and cannot do around polling places that apply to everybody.

 

[idav]

Poll watching isn't illegal.

Intimidation and deterrence would be. Many are actors in politics.

Glorifying something bigger than what it is. If people really are that weak minded to be that vulnerable, why vote in the first place? Just a bunch of fear for fear.

Think about something. If Trump tells you to watch polls for people that should be voting, how is that supposed to work. Do people wear certain clothing to let people know they shouldn't be voting? Sounds a lot like how Trump is for the discriminatory stop and frisk. It would most certainly be racially bias.

 

[Revoltingest]

I wonder....
With both sides pulling stunts & tricks, what do posters expect to gain from posting all these accusations about the side they oppose?
Change anyone's mind?
Reinforce their own?
Convince anyone or themselves that their own side is much better?

 

[Lighthouse]

Think about something. If Trump tells you to watch polls for people that should be voting, how is that supposed to work. Do people wear certain clothing to let people know they shouldn't be voting? Sounds a lot like how Trump is for the discriminatory stop and frisk. It would most certainly be racially bias.

Watch for people showing up a second or multiple times, watching for people walking in and out without checking in or out, watching bus loads of people showing up and not presenting identification if asked for it, or requiring it. People being handed ballots or multiple ballots without checking in or out. Then reporting it to an official(s). Some suggestions.

Has nothing to do with this fear that keeps being insinuated into minds.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Watch for people showing up a second or multiple times, watching for people walking in and out without checking in or out, watching bus loads of people showing up and not presenting identification if asked for it, or requiring it. People being handed ballots or multiple ballots without checking in or out. Then reporting it to an official(s). Some suggestions.

Has nothing to do with this fear that keeps being insinuated into minds.

Yeah....none of that is going on.

 

[Lighthouse]

Yeah....none of that is going on.

Not the point. Whether it is or isn't, that's what the poll watchers will likely watch for. (Unless you're being sarcastic.)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not the point. Whether it is or isn't, that's what the poll watchers will likely watch for. (Unless you're being sarcastic.)

I really doubt it. Voter fraud is so extremely rare and because it is virtually impossible to get away with, if those poll watchers were informed they would know there is nothing to watch for.

 

[idav]

I wonder....
With both sides pulling stunts & tricks, what do posters expect to gain from posting all these accusations about the side they oppose?
Change anyone's mind?
Reinforce their own?
Convince anyone or themselves that their own side is much better?

Hopefully to come out a bit more informed. To discuss the issues in more depth than the three presidential debates.

 

[Lighthouse]

I really doubt it. Voter fraud is so extremely rare and because it is virtually impossible to get away with, if those poll watchers were informed they would know there is nothing to watch for.

The poll watchers I'd imagine watch because they do doubt it.

I don't mind anyone that doesn't underestimate the intelligence of human animals and what clever devices they can get away with.

If I were evil, and wanting to assist in rigging something for my benefit...what I would do is invoke phantom fear, which will in turn entice more voters to mail in their ballots or use absentee ballots. That way, I could potentially have more control over rigging behind closed doors. When no one is caught, it is not fraud. And then laugh at poll watchers for having nothing to find at the polls and call them nuts and dangerous and racist.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The poll watchers I'd imagine watch because they do doubt it.

I don't mind anyone that doesn't underestimate the intelligence of human animals and what clever devices they can get away with.

If I were evil, and wanting to assist in rigging something for my benefit...what I would do is invoke phantom fear, which will in turn entice more voters to mail in their ballots or use absentee ballots. That way, I could potentially have more control over rigging behind closed doors. When no one is caught, it is not fraud. And then laugh at poll watchers for having nothing to find at the polls.

If you could actually pull off rigging the election, to the level of throwing it, especially at the national level, why do you not just take over the mob and Vegas because every Don in history would congratulate you on your criminal master piece. It's easier to steal someone's ID than it is commit voter fraud. Statistically, you're even more likely to get away with murder than voter fraud. As far as democratic elections go, America's upholds elections of integrity. And if you try to cheat it, the "Men in Black" will be paying you a visit.

 

[Lighthouse]

If you could actually pull off rigging the election, to the level of throwing it, especially at the national level, why do you not just take over the mob and Vegas because every Don in history would congratulate you on your criminal master piece. It's easier to steal someone's ID than it is commit voter fraud. Statistically, you're even more likely to get away with murder than voter fraud. As far as democratic elections go, America's upholds elections of integrity. And if you try to cheat it, the "Men in Black" will be paying you a visit.

If I'm federally backed, I'll get away with lots. Nobody would ever know fraud was committed and what people don't know can't hurt them in this case. Integrity preserved. Statistics preserved. Everyone keeps going about their merry business.

A few of my fellow shadester colleagues per state would be all it took to generate the change of many thousands per state.

All scenario of course. I really don't know what goes on or doesn't.

 

[Scuba Pete]

The poll watchers I'd imagine watch because they do doubt it.

You can be certain that they will make up stories about it too. They won't want to appear to have wasted their time, so they'll spin lie after lie just to save face... just like Trump would do. The persimmons will not have fallen far from that tree.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hopefully to come out a bit more informed. To discuss the issues in more depth than the three presidential debates.

Some info just isn't useful for voting.
I say it even distracts from real issues.
On NPR (yes, them again), they often play snippets of women who say they
switched their vote from Trump because of his boorish language about women.
Really?
Given all the concerns about war, the economy, constitutional
civil liberties & health care, this is what governs their vote?
(Note: I'm not picking on women. But this the gender which NPR has chosen to air.)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If I'm federally backed, I'll get away with lots. Nobody would ever know fraud was committed and what people don't know can't hurt them in this case. Integrity preserved. Statistics preserved. Everyone keeps going about their merry business.

How would you get away with it? There would be so many obstacles to clear and barriers to deminish. You'd have to get everyone from those supervising local votes all the way up to the FEC to somehow not see your fraudulent votes. There are numerous "check points" and "fail safes" that would catch this along the way. You are not going to get away with it.

 

[Lighthouse]

You can be certain that they will make up stories about it too. They won't want to appear to have wasted their time, so they'll spin lie after lie just to save face... just like Trump would do. The persimmons will not have fallen far from that tree.

Oh, one can only imagine the stories that will be made up by them and also actors. Can't wait until all of this is over.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, one can only imagine the stories that will be made up by them and also actors. Can't wait until all of this is over.

I'm listening to NPR today, & I find it odd that with all the voter intimidation Trump is being accused of, not a single instance has been reported. One would expect that NPR would leap at the chance to dis him further.

 

[Lighthouse]

I'm listening to NPR today, & I find it odd that with all the voter intimidation Trump is being accused of, not a single instance has been reported. One would expect that NPR would leap at the chance to dis him further.

Here's hoping they continue to not come,
Unfortunately, some of them may come actual Election Day.