Truth: either God exists or He don't.

[TagliatelliMonster]

As for the fraud and the evidence, it has been kidnapped, raped and snuffed out. But it does exist, it's just that it was in the wrong place at the wrong time

I'm sorry, what now?

 

[We Never Know]

It seems to me that we already know that the far right has a tendency to violence (OK City anyone?). Their denial of reality and lack of understanding of the Constitution make them dangerous.

Both parties are quite dangerous. They push agendas, vote on and pass the things they think are best for themselves and their party.
If its for the people put it out there and let the people vote on it. But then again we are talking about two parties that always vote themselves a raise, which again I think that should be up to the people since the parties supposedly are working for the people.

 

[Polymath257]

Both parties are quite dangerous. They push agendas, vote on and pass the things they think are best for themselves and their party.

That is standard politics and is to be expected in any system.

The problems come when there is violence. This is true for riots. And it is true for those trying to overthrow our government. The difference is that the riots had a legitimate grievance. Those attempting to overthrow the election did not. neither is excusable. But trying to actually overthrow the government is far worse.

If its for the people put it out there and let the people vote on it. But then again we are talking about two parties that always vote themselves a raise, which again I think that should be up to the people since the parties supposedly are working for the people.

Yes, this is an issue with representative systems: we hire the representatives so we don't have to think about the nitty gritty details of policy and budgets. But that means the representatives get to give themselves raises.

maybe we should make the raises for each branch dependent on the consensus of the other two branches?

 

[Polymath257]

We want to fight the good war, our role is to fight against the enemy with every weapon we have. This is a mortal battle

And *that* shows the danger of any sort of extremism. The extremists always think they are on the side of good and want to fight the 'good war' with 'every weapon they have'.

This is precisely why they are dangerous: they are willing to kill all who disagree with them.

 

[Polymath257]

And we believe we have to take the fraud deniers a LOT more seriously as their ignorance of the facts could lead to war.

The problem is that there is NO evidence of fraud. This has been dealt with by the courts. No evidence was presented, so the cases were dismissed.

The danger is in those who style themselves as patriots while seeking to overthrow an election they didn't like the outcome of.

Unless these people are dealt with, we will be living in a fascist dictatorship. It is *clearly* what Trump wants.

 

[Polymath257]

We've already had two dead in the water witch hunts, and don't worry about the patriots who exercised their right to protest.

They had the right to protest. They didn't have the right to storm the Capitol and attempt to stop Congress from validating the election.

They will get off with a slap on the wrist, nobody wants to open Pandora's box and start a new civil war.

Let's hope they get convicted of sedition and get the appropriate penalty for such. They are nothing more than traitors.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

No, at best the Bible says that. And in fact it is your interpretation of the Bible that says that You have no real clue as to what "God said". By the way, it is still breaking the Second Commandment if you make a false idol of the Bible.

God said it and you say He didn't. God said "let God be true and every man a liar, this includes you. I'm happy to believe in god and obey Him and allow you to be a liar

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Why do you think that none were plausible? Since when did you become an expert in engineering and Egyptology?

All of the world's top experts rubbished all the theories, they know more than you and me put together.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Sorry, I am not a Platonist. I disagree with this position.


No. The laws governing those computers existed, but not the computers.



Again, I disagree. We impose our wills by following the rules.

God said "there's nothing new, under the sun. all things continue as they have from the beginning".

Form our tiny narrow human view point, we only see and understand a very small portion of the spectrum. We're still don't know the basic puny things let alone the big things but God see's everything. He see's the whole of human history from our begging to the end of the world, at the same time.

We can only deal with bite size pieces of information, but God holds everything in His hand at once. Mankind has only discovered some of the elementary laws of physics, we have no idea of how to manipulate them or reprogram those laws so we are helpless and passive in that regard.

We have no say in anything, God predetermined the whole of human history, so nothing happens by accident and nothing is discovered by accident. Mankind will never discover the basic laws of physics, God has hidden them because we would use them for evil purposes if He revealed them to us.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

You’re delusional.

Trust me, the progressive globalists (domestic terrorists) won't get away with betraying the forefathers and selling the country to multinational cooperation's. The patriots will not allow that to happen, this is why the country could descend into another civil war

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

It seems to me that we already know that the far right has a tendency to violence (OK City anyone?). Their denial of reality and lack of understanding of the Constitution make them dangerous.

There's no provision in the constitution for the president to sell the country to China, so the far right has a bullet proof case

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

I'm sorry, what now?

The Democrats did everything they could to hide the evidence, you'd think they'd make it freely available if there was nothing to hide.
Every investigation focuses on the motive of a crime, then they find the suspects and question them. The suspects in this case are not cooperating at all so that makes it clear they're hiding the evidence.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

And *that* shows the danger of any sort of extremism. The extremists always think they are on the side of good and want to fight the 'good war' with 'every weapon they have'.

This is precisely why they are dangerous: they are willing to kill all who disagree with them.

It's true that all extremist groups believe their cause is the only right one and worth dying for. But the fact is all humans are extreme when you examine them, it's just a part of human nature.

Just look at every race or ethnic group in history, and you will find they were extremist in their views. Every tribe, every nation, every ethnic group and even a province will declare the neighbouring province as enemy territory and they will set out to wipe out their neighbours and take their possessions.

We can thank Charles Darwin for this (kill thy neighbour) mentality. He taught us that we're just another species of animal and animals kill the weaker and take their possessions.

The modern progressive loony left, tries to push the idea that they're all about inclusiveness, equality, social justice and all the other feel good ideologies but they will persecute and kill you if you dare stand up for free speech or civil liberty or civil rights.

So we're all the same at the end of the day, we're all killers of anyone who is different to us. It's just the natural human disposition and it will never change, so we all fight for what we believe. You can't reprogram a person to love those he naturally hates. We see the hatred between the backs and whites and the religions and nations, there's no denying the in your face facts.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

The problem is that there is NO evidence of fraud. This has been dealt with by the courts. No evidence was presented, so the cases were dismissed.

The danger is in those who style themselves as patriots while seeking to overthrow an election they didn't like the outcome of.

Unless these people are dealt with, we will be living in a fascist dictatorship. It is *clearly* what Trump wants.

It's simply not true, that Trump wants a fascist dictatorship. All he wants is a fair and transparent democracy and a responsible, accountable, reliable, transparent election system. But he was dealt t a corrupt and fraudulent election, which produced a false outcome. So you can't blame him or his supporters for demanding justice

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

They had the right to protest. They didn't have the right to storm the Capitol and attempt to stop Congress from validating the election.



Let's hope they get convicted of sedition and get the appropriate penalty for such. They are nothing more than traitors.

I personally can't blame people for being angry and demanding justice. People go to war when someone robs them of their country. There would be no protests if the election wasn't stolen

 

[Subduction Zone]

God said it and you say He didn't. God said "let God be true and every man a liar, this includes you. I'm happy to believe in god and obey Him and allow you to be a liar

No. just because the Bible says something does not mean that God said it.

Why are you always claiming that your God is an idiot and a liar?

 

[Subduction Zone]

All of the world's top experts rubbished all the theories, they know more than you and me put together.

Really? Then you should be able to provide a link. Or are you simply breaking the Ninth Commandment again?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I personally can't blame people for being angry and demanding justice. People go to war when someone robs them of their country. There would be no protests if the election wasn't stolen

You are quite wrong. There are a whole lot of idiots that support Trump. Seriously have you listened to what Trump says? They believed Trump when he lied to them. So there were protests. and an attempted insurrection because Trump lost by a huge margin and would not accept reality.

 

[Polymath257]

There would be no protests if the election wasn't stolen

There would have been no protests if they were lied to by Trump.

 

[Polymath257]

It's simply not true, that Trump wants a fascist dictatorship. All he wants is a fair and transparent democracy and a responsible, accountable, reliable, transparent election system. But he was dealt t a corrupt and fraudulent election, which produced a false outcome. So you can't blame him or his supporters for demanding justice

No, he *got* a fair and transparent vote. But he didn't like the fact that he *lost*. So he attempted in every way he could to overthrow the election.

he always had fascist tendencies. He also had strong dictatorial tendencies. Just look at who he made friends with as opposed to who he made enemies of.