Father Heathen
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If anything and everyhring be be regarded as truth, then what is falsehood? Why have institutions of learning if we can simply make **** up and not be wrong?
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Truth is not constant.
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Are you not meaning relative and ultimate truth?
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
After reading through some of your responses I have to conclude that the tile you meant to give this thread is Spiritual truth is not constant. You don't seem to have a problem acknowledging that there are physical truths which are constant, like 2 + 2 = 4 or that the Earth orbits around the sun.
We have a reliable method for determining physical truths... it's called the scientific method. Is there a similar reliable method for determining spiritual truths? Personally I don't see how there could be, if as you claim the truths about spirituality aren't consistent. In fact, that suggests that there is no such thing as a spiritual truth, since that 'truth' can be completely different for two individuals and in fact can change tomorrow for any given individual.
Thus, without any reliable method for determining the truth about spiritual claims there are no genuine spiritual 'truths', only spiritual claims that can never be verified.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Here is an example of relative truth, which is not spiritual, yet can't be determined by science, but you already in all likelihood believe in one of the truths.
Kohlberg’s Stages of Moral Development | Education, Society, & the K-12 Learner.
So which one do you believe in? Or are you amoral? That could also be the case.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Take 2: The first one is not science and the second is not constant for all of the time that the universe existed. Try again.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
It does not become false when we rise in wisdom level, the truth still is there for others to realize. But when we rise in wisdom level, we realize more pure truth, the less correct get taken away from our mind.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Less right is what you call wrong
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Nope
found that ultimate truth does not exist or at least humans can not realize it
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Yes you have physical truth and that only is truth within the physical realm, spiritual truth also contain the none physical realms
Science work, but only in human realm
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Fair enough. How did you find this?Nope
Connected but not the thing
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Through meditation and cultuvation of mind and body.
Take 2: So there are unreal causes?
What?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
There are not just things. There are also process in time and forces and so on. The thing is in part an artifact of our language.
I take it you have not read the psychology today piece i posted.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Now I have and she is doing the usual error of taking real for real and treating existence as something. Both are philosophy and only really exists, if you believe in them.
So she is doing in effect philosophy.
Can you give us an example of something that you consider a "spiritual truth?"Y
Ou only think physical truth, you forgetting my OP has always a spiritual sense in it. Physical truth is not the truth I seek