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Try to prove to me your religion.

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Keep in mind not all people consider the Bahai to be an Abrahamic relgion.

Also the Bahai religion is still illogical.

Regardless, the fact is that it still is an Abrahamic Faith, because of our belief in the same God of Abraham as Jews, Christians, and Muslims. And how can you honestly make the assertion that my faith is illogical, when, I'm willing to bet, that you don't even know anything about my religion. Also, I'm not out to convince you that it is the objective truth.
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Uh, no.....

I have studied literally dozens of religions, but the point of this thread is I would like to have a religion proven to me.

My mistake, then, sir. I guess mine is illogical to the point where it's not even worth studying.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
My mistake, then, sir. I guess mine is illogical to the point where it's not even worth studying.

As I have said SEVERAL times I have studied the Bahai religion.

Are you implying that it is impossible that I studied it and not found it to be true?
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Siddhartha could not have been a messenger from a deity.

Ah, yes. Lord Buddha. Taylor, you will find that even in the Faith known as Buddhism, as in other faiths, there are different perspectives on who Siddhartha Gautama was. Some believe he was a merely a wise man who found enlightenment, others venerate him as though he was a god or god-like being. Bahá'ís just believe that he was a Manifestation (or Messenger) of God. Not entirely far-out, right?
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
Ah, yes. Lord Buddha. Taylor, you will find that even in the Faith known as Buddhism, as in other faiths, there are different perspectives on who Siddhartha Gautama was. Some believe he was a merely a wise man who found enlightenment, others venerate him as though he was a god or god-like being. Bahá'ís just believe that he was a Manifestation (or Messenger) of God.

Seeing as Sidhartha said he was not a god or a prophet and that the existence of gods in unimportant, that contradicts your religion.
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
Seeing as Sidhartha said he was not a god or a prophet and that the existence of gods in unimportant, that contradicts your religion.


Not necessarily. See, although he did indeed state that He was no god or prophet or angel, He was not really concerned with whether or not people venerated Him or believed in gods in general, which is why you have that variety to start with. For Him, it was about the Four Noble Truths and people's coming to understand them, not about their arguing over His Station.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
Not necessarily. See, although he did indeed state that He was no god or prophet or angel, He was not really concerned with whether or not people venerated Him or believed in gods in general, which is why you have that variety to start with. For Him, it was about the Four Noble Truths and people's coming to understand them, not about their arguing over His Station.

Bahá'ís just believe that he was a Manifestation (or Messenger) of God.

That directly contradicts what you said.
 

Sundance

pursuing the Divine Beloved
Premium Member
That directly contradicts what you said.

How does my telling you that what Bahá'ís believe about Siddhartha’s Identity and Station contradict my talking about the variety of Buddhist belief concerning such? I think it serves to gel quite nicely.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Okay.
Agnosticism is saying that you do not know if a deity exist.
Atheism is saying I lack of belief in the existence of a deity or deities.
Both are applicable to me.
Then get to know about G-d, that is what one does if one does not know about a matter. Remedy of not knowing is just to start knowing about something/matter. One does not put on a label (like Agnosticism) to it. You don't need to ascribe to Agnosticism in that case. Right? Please
Regards
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
How does my telling you that what Bahá'ís believe about Siddhartha’s Identity and Station contradict my talking about the variety of Buddhist belief concerning such? I think it serves to gel quite nicely.

What Buddha says about his own station contradicts what you believe his station to be.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
Then get to know about G-d, that is what one does if one does not know about a matter. Remedy of not knowing is just to start knowing about something/matter. One does not put on a label (like Agnosticism) to it. You don't need to ascribe to Agnosticism in that case. Right? Please
Regards

I already have and do study all of the major world religions and many of the minor ones.
 
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