Try to prove to me your religion.

[Jabar]

I can insult a book or an idea outside of it's DIR.

I do not think you can call a scripture i hold highly bull****.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I do not think you can call a scripture i hold highly bull****.

According to the site rules, yes I can.

If we cannot say anything that will offend something someone holds sacred, we would not be able to utter a world.

 

[Jabar]

According to the site rules, yes I can.

If we cannot say anything that will offend something someone holds sacred, we would not be able to utter a world.

You used profanity. Especially, on a scripture i hold really high.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

You used profanity. Especially, on a scripture i hold really high.

Should have read the whole paragraph, it is our fault if the filter does not catch the profanity, if it does catch it is not against the rules.

 

[Jabar]

Should have read the whole paragraph, it is our fault if the filter does not catch the profanity, if it does catch it is not against the rules.

It does not matter, you insulted the book i believe to be the greatest of all. You should just watch your word selection. The fact that you false reported me is funny too.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

It does not matter, you insulted the book i believe to be the greatest of all. You should just watch your word selection. The fact that you false reported me is funny too.

Newsflash: Not everyone thinks so and we do not have to give it special privileges, deal with it.

Also harassing comments towards other users is not allowed, i gave you a warning and you ignored it.

Now going back to the original topic. If all you are going to do is to tell me to read a book i have already read, then you have no reason to be here.

Asking me to do it anymore will be spam.

 

[paarsurrey]

"Agnosticism is saying that you do not know if a deity exist." #456
paarsurrey said: ↑
Did one study Quran from cover to cover, intently?
Regards

Yes, several times.

Thanks.
Then one cannot reasonably express that one does not know, since one has received the requisite knowledge. G-d and his attributes have been explained in Quran elaborately. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

"Agnosticism is saying that you do not know if a deity exist." #456
paarsurrey said: ↑
Did one study Quran from cover to cover, intently?
Regards

Thanks.
Then one cannot reasonably express that one does not know, since one has received the requisite knowledge. G-d and his attributes have been explained in Quran elaborately. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards

That assumes that I think the qur'an is true, which I do not.

 

[gnostic]

Then one cannot reasonably express that one does not know, since one has received the requisite knowledge. G-d and his attributes have been explained in Quran elaborately. Please correct me if I am wrong.

The very same can be said about you, paarsurrey.

If you have never study science or history before, then you cannot possibly and reasonably express what you don't know, AND YET you always do like to lecture us and preach us to what's wrong with science or with history.

In the thread - "Was Islam spread by the sword?", you have constantly copy-and-paste wiki articles about this country or that country, but you never bother to understand them.

Muslims did spread Islam everywhere when they have made wars upon or invaded another nation. And yet you ignored the parts in the wiki articles that are saying the opposite of what you are claiming, just demonstrate you are cherry picking what you are reading, and show to everyone your dishonest tactics.

A lot of people don't take you all that serious because of the ways you do things.

You claiming that a person cannot understand Islam if they have read the Qur'an, but the same can be said about you having never study or understand history or science, but you are very insistent in telling us what are wrong in history and in science, only demonstrate double standard and your hypocrisy.

I have read the Qur'an from cover-to-cover.

Do i pretend to understand every single passage in the Qur'an?

Of course not, because a lot of passages in the Qur'an are vague and ambiguous, which may have any number of meanings or different interpretations. The same can be said about the Tanakh or the Bible, or any other scripture or religious literature.

If a scripture is crouched in allegory and hidden meanings and symbols, then there are bound to be many different interpretations.

I have some experiences in reading literature other than the Qur'an, and I am not just talking about the bible. I have read other scriptures and other literature that have religious or mythological themes, and know enough to tell you that there is nothing really special about the Qur'an.

Like the other scriptures before the Qur'an, the Qur'an is filled with myths, fables and folklore, half-truths and no truths, and superstitions.

Reading the Qur'an don't give me any indication what were written, to be true, especially when the Qur'an contained angels, jinns and talking ants, and a whole lot of make-believes.

Are you willing to stop talking about history or science, which you have little to no knowledge at all?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

The very same can be said about you, paarsurrey.

If you have never study science or history before, then you cannot possibly and reasonably express what you don't know, AND YET you always do like to lecture us and preach us to what's wrong with science or with history.

In the thread - "Was Islam spread by the sword?", you have constantly copy-and-paste wiki articles about this country or that country, but you never bother to understand them.

Muslims did spread Islam everywhere when they have made wars upon or invaded another nation. And yet you ignored the parts in the wiki articles that are saying the opposite of what you are claiming, just demonstrate you are cherry picking what you are reading, and show to everyone your dishonest tactics.

A lot of people don't take you all that serious because of the ways you do things.

You claiming that a person cannot understand Islam if they have read the Qur'an, but the same can be said about you having never study or understand history or science, but you are very insistent in telling us what are wrong in history and in science, only demonstrate double standard and your hypocrisy.

I have read the Qur'an from cover-to-cover.

Do i pretend to understand every single passage in the Qur'an?

Of course not, because a lot of passages in the Qur'an are vague and ambiguous, which may have any number of meanings or different interpretations. The same can be said about the Tanakh or the Bible, or any other scripture or religious literature.

If a scripture is crouched in allegory and hidden meanings and symbols, then there are bound to be many different interpretations.

I have some experiences in reading literature other than the Qur'an, and I am not just talking about the bible. I have read other scriptures and other literature that have religious or mythological themes, and know enough to tell you that there is nothing really special about the Qur'an.

Like the other scriptures before the Qur'an, the Qur'an is filled with myths, fables and folklore, half-truths and no truths, and superstitions.

Reading the Qur'an don't give me any indication what were written, to be true, especially when the Qur'an contained angels, jinns and talking ants, and a hold lot of make-believes.

Are you willing to stop talking about history or science, which you have little to no knowledge at all?

*Gives this person a ****ing medal*

 

[Jabar]

*Gives this person a ****ing medal*

If you give me one error in the Qur´an, i will accept Atheism today.

 

[paarsurrey]

That assumes that I think the qur'an is true, which I do not.

I didn't say it, yet one did get the knowledge.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

The very same can be said about you, paarsurrey.
If you have never study science or history before, then you cannot possibly and reasonably express what you don't know, AND YET you always do like to lecture us and preach us to what's wrong with science or with history.
In the thread - "Was Islam spread by the sword?", you have constantly copy-and-paste wiki articles about this country or that country, but you never bother to understand them.
Muslims did spread Islam everywhere when they have made wars upon or invaded another nation. And yet you ignored the parts in the wiki articles that are saying the opposite of what you are claiming, just demonstrate you are cherry picking what you are reading, and show to everyone your dishonest tactics.
A lot of people don't take you all that serious because of the ways you do things.
You claiming that a person cannot understand Islam if they have read the Qur'an, but the same can be said about you having never study or understand history or science, but you are very insistent in telling us what are wrong in history and in science, only demonstrate double standard and your hypocrisy.
I have read the Qur'an from cover-to-cover.
Do i pretend to understand every single passage in the Qur'an?
Of course not, because a lot of passages in the Qur'an are vague and ambiguous, which may have any number of meanings or different interpretations. The same can be said about the Tanakh or the Bible, or any other scripture or religious literature.
If a scripture is crouched in allegory and hidden meanings and symbols, then there are bound to be many different interpretations.
I have some experiences in reading literature other than the Qur'an, and I am not just talking about the bible. I have read other scriptures and other literature that have religious or mythological themes, and know enough to tell you that there is nothing really special about the Qur'an.
Like the other scriptures before the Qur'an, the Qur'an is filled with myths, fables and folklore, half-truths and no truths, and superstitions.
Reading the Qur'an don't give me any indication what were written, to be true, especially when the Qur'an contained angels, jinns and talking ants, and a whole lot of make-believes.
Are you willing to stop talking about history or science, which you have little to no knowledge at all?

I always welcome the differing/opposing voices/opinions. One could give the wrong side of the picture, I don't mind, Truth will prevail, nevertheless.
A little digression; what is the religion "Religioni π"?Please
Regards

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

If you give me one error in the Qur´an, i will accept Atheism today.

Thats a bad reason to accept atheism.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I didn't say it, yet one did get the knowledge.
Regards

So if I read it and do not find it to be factual, that means I read it wrong?

 

[Jabar]

Thats a bad reason to accept atheism.

Haha, an error will never be picked out so i will not.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Haha, an error will never be picked out so i will not.

If you must insist.

I will give you an error.

Can a Muslim man marry a polytheist according to Islam?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

If you give me one error in the Qur´an, i will accept Atheism today.

'dismiss it as a mistranslation or misconception out of hand, ironically because of my own exegesis'.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Jabar]

If you must insist.

I will give you an error.

Can a Muslim man marry a polytheist according to Islam?

In the Qur´an, there is not one statement that says that Muslims cannot marry a polytheist.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

In the Qur´an, there is not one statement that says that you cannot marry a polytheist.

“Do not marry idolatresses (al mushrikāt) till they believe; and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress even though she would please you; and do not marry idolaters (al Mushrikīn) till they believe (hata yūminū), and certainly a believing slave is better than an idolater, even though he would please you. These invite to the Fire, and Allah invites to the Garden and to forgiveness by His grace, and makes clear His revelations to mankind so that they may remember.”Qur’an 2:221.

Have you even read the Qur'an?