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Try to prove to me your religion.

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Do not marry idolatresses (al mushrikāt) till they believe; and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress even though she would please you; and do not marry idolaters (al Mushrikīn) till they believe (hata yūminū), and certainly a believing slave is better than an idolater, even though he would please you. These invite to the Fire, and Allah invites to the Garden and to forgiveness by His grace, and makes clear His revelations to mankind so that they may remember.”Qur’an 2:221.

Have you even read the Qur'an?
Haha, so now you get the translation that says idol worshippers huh? You really are trying to deceive me. Anyhow, it says do not hold marriage bonds with DISBELIEVING WOMEN. So, what is your point?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So if I read it and do not find it to be factual, that means I read it wrong?
I didn't say that.Yet one cannot say that one did not get the knowledge. One has denied the knowledge. So one's religion expressed "Religion:Agnostic Atheism" the first part does not remain valid. Right?The other one is OK, for present.
Regards
 

gnostic

The Lost One
I always welcome the differing/opposing voices/opinions. One could give the wrong side of the picture, I don't mind, Truth will prevail, nevertheless.

And yet, I haven't seen you admit that you were wrong, when someone pointed to you that one of those articles you have quoted from wiki that contradicted your claim.

And you have a tendency to move goalpost, in your claims, talking about Islam, when you really talking about Ahmadiyya, and about Ahmadiyya when you are talking about Islam. Ahmadiyya and Islam are not synonymous for each other.

I don't like your definition of the truth, since you are so willing to play loose with the truth.

A little digression; what is the religion "Religion:pi π"?Please
And pi is not a religion. It's just me having a little fun. You do know how to quip a little, don't you?

The pi is simply a constant used in maths for geometry and trigonometry to calculate circles, ovals, spheres, arches, etc.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Do not marry idolatresses (al mushrikāt) till they believe; and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress even though she would please you; and do not marry idolaters (al Mushrikīn) till they believe (hata yūminū), and certainly a believing slave is better than an idolater, even though he would please you. These invite to the Fire, and Allah invites to the Garden and to forgiveness by His grace, and makes clear His revelations to mankind so that they may remember.”Qur’an 2:221.

Have you even read the Qur'an?
Oops, i was looking at a different verse. Anyhow, what is wrong about this verse?
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
Haha, so now you get the translation that says idol worshippers huh? You really are trying to deceive me. Anyhow, it says do not hold marriage bonds with DISBELIEVING WOMEN. So, what is your point?

This prevents Mulslims of any sex to have relationships from any polytheist/idol worshipers.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
I didn't say that.Yet one cannot say that one did not get the knowledge. One has denied the knowledge. So one's religion expressed "Religion:Agnostic Atheism" the first part does not remain valid. Right?The other one is OK, for present.
Regards

Incorrect.

Because there is no way to tell if that is really knowledge about a deity or not.

There is still no evidence for a deities existence or lack thereof.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
This prevents Mulslims of any sex to have relationships from any polytheist/idol worshipers.
Well, it is not a sin. It clearly says that believing women are better than polytheist women. There is nothing wrong with that. In terms of the truth, the polytheistic women are are inferior to believing women.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
Well, it is not a sin. It clearly says that believing women are better than polytheist women. There is nothing wrong with that. In terms of the truth, the polytheistic women are are inferior to believing women.

First of all in Islam it is a sin, as it states.

Second of all the claim that Muslim Women are superior to polytheistic women has no basis in reality.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
First of all in Islam it is a sin, as it states.

Second of all the claim that Muslim Women are superior to polytheistic women has no basis in reality.
It never states it is a sin. Secondly, this is not an error on Qur´an part, you failed. Muslim women are better because of the fact that they believe in Allah, believing in Allah brings success in this life and Hereafter, people who believe in multiple gods are disbelieving in Allah and disobeying him. Therefore, you fail once again. You try and pick out an error in the Qur´an but then get proven wrong.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Really?

Because there should be observable evidence of this and there is not.
WHAT! Haha. Once the exposure is given to you, you start to talk about observable evidence. The observable evidence is the Qur´an. Those who disbelieve will go to Hell and have a bad life. This clearly shows that you have been given exposure and then have nothing else to say but blabber random comments.
 

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
WHAT! Haha. Once the exposure is given to you, you start to talk about observable evidence. The observable evidence is the Qur´an. Those who disbelieve will go to Hell and have a bad life. This clearly shows that you have been given exposure and then have nothing else to say but blabber random comments.

Bringing up a hypothetical afterlife is not relevant here because I was talking about this quote.

believing in Allah brings success in this life

Is there evidence of this or are you talking out of your ***?
 
I never said Qur'an mentions multiple components being mixed. It still is accurate because production is between the backbone and ribs. Proceeding meaning where it is starts and ends up in the blood. This is accurate.

Wrong. In post 420 you claim the verse mentions all the components that go into making sperm in a failed attempt to twist what the verse said. The verse simply stated that man is created from a DROP emitted from between the backbone and ribs. Now I know you are being intentionally misleading.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Bringing up a hypothetical afterlife is not relevant here because I was talking about this quote.



Is there evidence of this or are you talking out of your ***?
(16:97) Whosoever acts righteously - whether a man or a woman - and embraces belief, We will surely grant him a good life; and will surely grant such persons their reward according to the best of their deeds.
Whoever does righteousness, whether male or female, while he is a believer - We will surely cause him to live a good life, and We will surely give them their reward [in the Hereafter] according to the best of what they used to do.

Haha, truth prevails.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Wrong. In post 420 you claim the verse mentions all the components that go into making sperm in a failed attempt to twist what the verse said. The verse simply stated that man is created from a DROP emitted from between the backbone and ribs. Now I know you are being intentionally misleading.
Stop twisting Qur´an words, it says PROCEEDING from between the backbone and ribs.
 
It never says that mountains stop earthquakes, but it stabilizes the earth from shaking. Nowhere does it say that it stops earthquakes. The arabic word for earthquake in the Qur'an is zalzalah but the words used in the verse is tameedah which means to shake, to sway, to swing. It is saying that lest it would shake WITH YOU. This means that if the mountains were not there then if you would have walked, then the earth would have moved with you. If you have swayed, the earth would have swayed with you. Normally, we know when we walk on the earth, the earth does not shake. So, Allah is saying he made the mountains to stabilize the earth. You are clearly making misconceptions.

Your rebuttal is utterly absurd. Mountains do not stabilize the earth, nor prevent the earth from shaking. By the way, when the earth shakes, regardless of why, that is an earthquake. There are numerous passages in the quran that claim that mountains hold the earth firm so it doesn't shake (earthquake). Again you show that you are extremely ignorant and unable to grasp the simplest logical arguments or are intentionally being misleading.

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/mountains_pegs.html
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Your rebuttal is utterly absurd. Mountains do not stabilize the earth, nor prevent the earth from shaking. By the way, when the earth shakes, regardless of why, that is an earthquake. There are numerous passages in the quran that claim that mountains hold the earth firm so it doesn't shake (earthquake). Again you show that you are extremely ignorant and unable to grasp the simplest logical arguments or are intentionally being misleading.

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/mountains_pegs.html
I never said Mountains stop earthquakes. Besides Mountains do stabilize the earth but you are ignorant. You are making simple misconceptions.
 
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