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Try to prove to me your religion.

Taylor Seraphim

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
Jabar said:
And the Qur'an says in Surah Ambiya, Ch. No 21, Verse No. 31, in Surah Luqman, Ch. No. 31 Verse No.10, as well as in Surah Nahl, Ch. No. 16, Verse No. 15, that...'We have made the mountains standing firm on the Earth, lest it would shake with them and with you.' The function of the mountain in the Qur'an, is given to prevent the Earth from shaking. Nowhere does the Qur'an say that the mountain prevents the earthquake. The Arabic word for 'earthquake' is zilzaal or zalzala. But the words are Tamida which means to shake, swing, sway. Indicating, if the mountains were not there, if you would have walked, if you would have moved, even the earth would have moved with you - If you would have swayed, even the earth would have swayed with you. And we know normally when we walk on the Earth, the Earth does not shake.

It is all ignorance because you do not read and comprehend a scripture properly.
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He said not to use the Qur'an as evidence you dolt.

In reality seismic activity tends to be even more active around mountains because they tend to be on the borders of seismic plates.

But lets not try to confuse you with real science.
 
Jabar

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Taylor Seraphim said:
PROVE IT!
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Do you define successful as in wealth? You are seriously ignorant. You prove to me that Muslims do not have successful lives and not pointing out ´´terrorists´´ like a stereotypical person. People who do righteous deeds do not kill others as it is forbidden and is the second worst sin. You should prove to me Muslims do not have successful lives because you claim they do not.
 
Jabar

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Taylor Seraphim said:
He said not to use the Qur'an as evidence you dolt.

In reality seismic activity tends to be even more active around mountains because they tend to be on the borders of seismic plates.

But lets not try to confuse you with real science.
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Would we be able to walk efficiently without mountains?
 
JustWondering

JustWondering

Jerk
Jabar said:
And the Qur'an says in Surah Ambiya, Ch. No 21, Verse No. 31, in Surah Luqman, Ch. No. 31 Verse No.10, as well as in Surah Nahl, Ch. No. 16, Verse No. 15, that...'We have made the mountains standing firm on the Earth, lest it would shake with them and with you.' The function of the mountain in the Qur'an, is given to prevent the Earth from shaking. Nowhere does the Qur'an say that the mountain prevents the earthquake. The Arabic word for 'earthquake' is zilzaal or zalzala. But the words are Tamida which means to shake, swing, sway. Indicating, if the mountains were not there, if you would have walked, if you would have moved, even the earth would have moved with you - If you would have swayed, even the earth would have swayed with you. And we know normally when we walk on the Earth, the Earth does not shake.

It is all ignorance because you do not read and comprehend a scripture properly.
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I asked you not to quote the quran...and you quote the quran.

Your "argument" is so nonsensical and laughably absurd I don't think any further discussion with you is necessary. I would suggest getting yourself an education, some science classes, definitely. Maybe try reading some books besides the quran.
 
Jabar

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
JustWondering said:
I asked you not to quote the quran...and you quote the quran.

Your "argument" is so nonsensical and laughably absurd I don't think any further discussion with you is necessary. I would suggest getting yourself an education, some science classes, definitely. Maybe try reading some books besides the quran.
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Because it is logic to find out the answer yourself, anyhow you need other undivine sources in your face to give you proof. Mountains stabilize the earth and its crust. (Isotacy) They contain deep roots. Without mountains the earth would not process well. Mountains contain 25% of the worlds land surface.
 
JustWondering

JustWondering

Jerk
Jabar said:
Would we be able to walk efficiently without mountains?
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Have you ever flown on an airplane Jabar? I have. I have walked around on an airplane while it was in flight with no problems. Guess what? There aren't any mountains on airplanes. Amazing huh?
 
Jabar

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
JustWondering said:
Have you ever flown on an airplane Jabar? I have. I have walked around on an airplane while it was in flight with no problems. Guess what? There aren't any mountains on airplanes. Amazing huh?
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You are being very ignorant. It was a blessing for us, that is what Allah is basically saying. This is evidential information. You have not proven the Qur´an wrong.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
a collection people asking proof....all the while.....

there will never be a photo, a fingerprint, an equation or repeatable experiment....
when it comes to God......reason is all you have...

as for one reference only......nay
 
Jabar

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
JustWondering said:
You clearly don't know what evidence is.

You clearly have no grasp of basic science.

Seriously, at this point you are only embarrassing yourself.
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You clearly do not, explain to me how mountains do not stabilize? You are just a skeptic and refuse to believe in the evidence i provide.
 
Jabar

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Give me a legitimate error in the Qur´an and i will convert. There are no errors in the Qur´an. Everyone hear me out on this, i believe Qur´an is divine and has no errors. Until you can prove me wrong, i stand on this belief. I challenge anyone to give me one error in Qur´an and i will convert if you do. (YOU WONT)
 
JustWondering

JustWondering

Jerk
Jabar said:
You clearly do not, explain to me how mountains do not stabilize? You are just a skeptic and refuse to believe in the evidence i provide.
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Mindlessly quoting the quran and than exclaiming "aha I'm right!" is not evidence, it is not a well reasoned argument, but it is proselytizing.

Again, I direct you to post 418. Which you probably will not read and try to refute like a rational person.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Jabar said:
Give me a legitimate error in the Qur´an and i will convert. There are no errors in the Qur´an. Everyone hear me out on this, i believe Qur´an is divine and has no errors. Until you can prove me wrong, i stand on this belief. I challenge anyone to give me one error in Qur´an and i will convert if you do. (YOU WONT)
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this thing about conversion is a fool's offer....

what if the devil is watching?.....does he not know where the fault of Man's faith is found?

who do you think you are tempting?
 
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