Tunisian girls return home pregnant after Syria 'Sexual Jihad’

[Shia Islam]

What i know of Nikah in Shia is to have a contract in order for the guy to **** the woman and have sexual pleasure for a limited time such as one month of sexual relationship and of course the woman's parents are paid for selling their daughter or to be leased to one man then it can be leased next to another so i believe it is a little bit better than prostitution,i don't mean to be offensive here but that is how i see it,it is kind of business which sex is involved.

So you avoided replying to the proofs given above that Mut'a is an islamic marriage that was practiced during the life of the prophet and abu bakr before it was cancelled by Umar, and instead you started to repeat the old accusations of your imams...

Be sure that what you described is not applicable to Mut'a, as muta'a have conditions such as the Uddah (waiting period after the marriage) etc.

You need to read about other forms of marrige which are available in wahhabi islam (and other Islams) such as marrying-with-the-intention-of-divorce

 

[Shia Islam]

This statement is totally unacceptable yet all too common.

Several times I have seen muslim members make this kind of statement and then go on and complain about non-muslims generalising their women.

The hypocrisy disgusts me.

I can see that you may be right

 

[darkendless]

I can see that you may be right

Nothing personal and no offence was intended, just saying.

Seems that a typical retort to a reference of any muslim women being forced into modesty by their society is met with a reference to western women being shameless harlots. I think both generalisations are terribly unfair.

A lot of muslim women make their own choices and a lot of western women do not frequent nightclubs and if they do are more than capable of self control.

 

[Shia Islam]

no you are lying about Allah not the prophet only
ok, i have my religion and you have your religion, enjoy it

following the prophet and his infallible household SAWW is paradise in earth. the imams a.s have referred to this, i have seen it... :yes:

 

[FearGod]

So you avoided replying to the proofs given above that Mut'a is an islamic marriage that was practiced during the life of the prophet and abu bakr before it was cancelled by Umar, and instead you started to repeat the old accusations of your imams...

Be sure that what you described is not applicable to Mut'a, as muta'a have conditions such as the Uddah (waiting period after the marriage) etc.

You need to read about other forms of marrige which are available in wahhabi islam (and other Islams) such as marrying-with-the-intention-of-divorce

i don't follow that nonsense such as shia,wahabi..etc,i am just a muslim,so pls don't call me anything i don't follow any man modified religion.

But i will never accept to sell or rent my daughter for a man for a fixed time marriage and i'll discard Islam at once if i have to know it treats woman as business and an enjoyment tool as the case in your branch of Islam.

 

[FearGod]

This is how the business contract of MUta(sexual pleasure) works in Shia.

[youtube]X06hmqCBZyQ[/youtube]
How to perform a Muta (temporary marriage) contract - YouTube

 

[dynavert2012]

following the prophet and his infallible household SAWW is paradise in earth. the imams a.s have referred to this, i have seen it... :yes:

huh, when Allah asked you why you follow those imams what you would say to him

oh yeah !
"And they will say, "Our Lord, indeed we obeyed our masters and our dignitaries, and they led us astray from the

way, Our Lord, give them double the punishment and curse them with a great curse." 33:67-68

don't believe everything Imams tell you, many of them are misguided and just willing money and pleasure in this life

take care​

 

[Assad91]

huh, when Allah asked you why you follow those imams what you would say to him

oh yeah !
"And they will say, "Our Lord, indeed we obeyed our masters and our dignitaries, and they led us astray from the

way, Our Lord, give them double the punishment and curse them with a great curse." 33:67-68

don't believe everything Imams tell you, many of them are misguided and just willing money and pleasure in this life

take care​

Are you saying that about the Ahlul Bayt Imams (as)?

Or are you ignorant and think he is talking of just regular Imams, like the ones Sunnis follow?​

 

[dynavert2012]

Are you saying that about the Ahlul Bayt Imams (as)?

Or are you ignorant and think he is talking of just regular Imams, like the ones Sunnis follow?

surly i'm not talking about Ali, fatema, hassan and hussien and the prophet's wives
i'm talking about the current misguided khomeiny and khamen'i and the early shia imams like the author of kafi book

 

[Assad91]

What i know of Nikah in Shia is to have a contract in order for the guy to **** the woman and have sexual pleasure for a limited time such as one month of sexual relationship and of course the woman's parents are paid for selling their daughter or to be leased to one man then it can be leased next to another so i believe it is a little bit better than prostitution,i don't mean to be offensive here but that is how i see it,it is kind of business which sex is involved.

What you think you know about nikah muta is actually nothing. It is not some simple marriage in order just to have sexual pleasure, and the coontract could include the condition of no sex!

2434. A woman with whom temporary marriage is contracted, is not entitled to share the conjugal bed of her husband, and does not inherit from him, and the husband, too, does not inherit from her.

The Official Website of Grand Ayatollah Sistani

 

[Assad91]

surly i'm not talking about Ali, fatema, hassan and hussien and the prophet's wives
i'm talking about the current misguided khomeiny and khamen'i and the early shia imams like the author of kafi book

You know a quick search online would show Kafi was written by Muhammad Ya‘qūb Kulaynī.

And you can hate on Khomeini and Khameni all you want. I don't know why. They have more heart and soul then half the sunni ulama, as they are the biggest voices of reason asking for brotherhood and end to sectarian bigotry.

Being respectful doesn't mean you agree with someones beliefs. It means you're an adult.

You see a report on some questionable activity going on with extremist, and you actually defend if by making sectarian insults. That is just childish, especially considering your lack of ignorance of Shia islam. Well lack of ignorance outside of memorized polemics.

 

[dynavert2012]

by the way, i'm writing my religion is Islam not sunni or shia, or anything else, so it's obvious who are the voices that call for brotherhood, and for sure we shouldn't forget the poster of this thread, who for sure post it seeking the unity among umma

 

[BSM1]

For some time i have avoided following the news about what is called the "Sexual Jihad", a term describing manipulated young May-be-Salafi-related girls volunteering to offer their 'sexual services' to radical 'Jihadists' fighting the Syrian Government.

At the beginning i thought that the story is made up by the supporters of the Syrian government ...

Till I watched Tunisian mother crying for her young daughter who was 'fooled' by the terrorists...

Now read this and share your opinion:

All this and they get paid, too.

 

[FearGod]

Are you saying that about the Ahlul Bayt Imams (as)?

Or are you ignorant and think he is talking of just regular Imams, like the ones Sunnis follow?

And was the prophet a follower of one of your Imam (Ahlul Bayt).

What is the benifit of making Islam as Sunni and Shia,all prophets were muslims and follow no one but Allah.

Anyway it is up to you what you choose,some thought Jesus PBUH to be God and they think that they are in the right path.

 

[Assad91]

by the way, i'm writing my religion is Islam not sunni or shia, or anything else, so it's obvious who are the voices that call for brotherhood, and for sure we shouldn't forget the poster of this thread, who for sure post it seeking the unity among umma

You meet me in person and I will say muslim.


It is easier on a forum for educational purposes to declare which school of thought I follow. This isn't for me, nor you, but those nonbelievers who are just learning of Islam.

And the poster of this thread shared news of whats going on inside the circles of extremist.

All of what he posted was first said by the grand mufti of Tunesia (A Sunni himself)

Check it out;

[youtube]cFYCK95xTqc[/youtube]
Tunisian Grand Mufti: Jihad in Syria is Un-Islamic; Salafis in Syria Are Taught False Ideologies - YouTube


Or is he a sectarian conflicting shia too?

And is talking bad about extremist that worrisome to you? Its not like the claim has been made that ALL of Syrian rebels are doing such.

 

[Assad91]

And was the prophet a follower of one of your Imam (Ahlul Bayt).

Of course not. But he wasn't a follower of Shafi or Hanafi either
Nor Abu Bakr or Omar!

What is the benifit of making Islam as Sunni and Shia,all prophets were muslims and follow no one but Allah.

I hope you both know when Brother Shia mentioned following Imams, he was talking of the 12 Imams. We take guidance from them.

You take guidance from Abu Hanifa and Shafi.

Anyway it is up to you what you choose,some thought Jesus PBUH to be God and they think that they are in the right path.

Some think they are on the right path but they are not.

May Allah guide us to that which is correct.



PS;

I hope you will adress the post I replied to your misguided thoughts on Nikah Mutah.

 

[FearGod]

What you think you know about nikah muta is actually nothing. It is not some simple marriage in order just to have sexual pleasure, and the coontract could include the condition of no sex

Muta means pleasure,so if not for sexual pleasure then what they are married for.

What the meaning of Nikah,it doesn't mean *******

i can see that you are trying to make the muta as a good thing but i feel that you don't agree with it in by heart if i am right in my expectation.

Please answer me with sincerity.

Will you accept to marry your daughter for a one month contract ?

 

[Assad91]

Muta means pleasure,so if not for sexual pleasure then what they are married for.

What the meaning of Nikah,it doesn't mean *******

i can see that you are trying to make the muta as a good thing but i feel that you don't agree with it in by heart if i am right in my expectation.

Please answer me with sincerity.

Will you accept to marry your daughter for a one month contract ?

I posted from one of the most followed scholars.

You dispute the most followed Shia scholar? Oh I forgot, you studied for decades in Qom

As for my daughter, depending on how old she is, who the man is, and if it is what she wants. If its just for a month, then I'd wish for a condition to be made that there is no conjugal relations in bed.

 

[Assad91]

I just realized you are not the good with english.

Maybe you didn't know " share the conjugal bed of her husband" means have to have sex.

 

[FearGod]

Of course not. But he wasn't a follower of Shafi or Hanafi either
Nor Abu Bakr or Omar!

And why you need to follow any.
Please show me the great points which you achieve by being a follower.
i don't follow any one on this earth and i got the message from the prophets and i know what is bad and what is good.

I hope you both know when Brother Shia mentioned following Imams, he was talking of the 12 Imams. We take guidance from them.

You take guidance from Abu Hanifa and Shafi.

No i don't need to take the guidance from any man or Imam.

Some think they are on the right path but they are not.

May Allah guide us to that which is correct.

Amen