Two police ambushed; some protesters yell "we hope they die"

[McBell]

I understand information. I'm questioning the timeline. That's what doesn't make sense.

What do we actually know about the timelime?
How long after the initial shooting before the news reported on it?
How long after the initial shooting before medical help arrived?
How long after medical help arrived before the victims were transported?
How long was the ride from the crime scene to the medical facility?

Perhaps you have access to this information that I do not?

 

[tytlyf]

How do we know for sure who are the perps? There are plenty of right-wing terrorists going after cops. And maybe even Trump agents attacking cops to stir people up before the election. How do we know it's not those agents.

We don't, but common sense tells me that this is most likely BLM related. Instead of RW radicals. Unless of course this is another case of radical RW'rs trying to act like BLM to stir the pot.

 

[tytlyf]

What do we actually know about the timelime?

That's the next step, time of shooting, time of ambulance arrival, distance to hospital, etc.

How long after the initial shooting before the news reported on it?

I'd assume after the ambulance arrived at the hospital.

How long after the initial shooting before medical help arrived?

My guess would be 10 minutes.

How long after medical help arrived before the victims were transported?

My guess would be 5 minutes.

How long was the ride from the crime scene to the medical facility?

Need address of shooting, then address of hospital.

Perhaps you have access to this information that I do not?

Haven't bothered to look into the above, although it would be easy. Common sense tells me the timeline is questionable. I'll side with my sense instead of what RW media reports. Look into this further and we can go from there. For me, it's fishy and not worth my time.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I personally don't care for the police as an institution as they've never helped me or my mom when we needed it

I’m really sorry to hear that they never helped you & your Mom, when you needed it!
I do know that they’re loathe to interfere in family disputes many times.

The entire judicial & legal system, which dictate police procedures, limits their ability to act at times. It’s an inadequate system, especially in this type of government, where the rights of criminals are valued as much as those who are law-adibing. (My POV is, when a person hurts another on purpose, callously disregarding the rights of that person...then their rights should be disregarded / forfeited to the same degree, if not more so!)

....but I don't hate every person who happens to be a cop, no.

I know you dont, you’re a decent person...your mother did a good job.

We need “the Kingdom” to rule! Matthew 6:10...Revelation 21:3-4

 

[McBell]

That's the next step, time of shooting, time of ambulance arrival, distance to hospital, etc.

I'd assume after the ambulance arrived at the hospital.

My guess would be 10 minutes.

My guess would be 5 minutes.

Need address of shooting, then address of hospital.

Haven't bothered to look into the above, although it would be easy. Common sense tells me the timeline is questionable. I'll side with my sense instead of what RW media reports. Look into this further and we can go from there. For me, it's fishy and not worth my time.

Wow.
Two people shot at near point blank range and you think it will only take five minutes to stabilize them for transport?

My common sense tells me your common sense has no idea what it is talking about.

 

[Twilight Hue]

To critical thinkers, the story doesn't make sense.

Sounds like an episode of Columbo.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

When doctors commit injustices? Like what? Racial profiling and the refusal to treat minorities with the same level of care they do white patients? Is that the injustice of doctors you mean? And if they are doing that, why is that okay with you?

Where did @KenS suggest that differential treatment was OK with him? As for you, whatever happened to "Love, Light, and Life"?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

If something doesn't make sense, another option is to investigate it.

Always good advice, in any field of knowledge!

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I’m really sorry to hear that they never helped you & your Mom, when you needed it!
I do know that they’re loathe to interfere in family disputes many times.

The entire judicial & legal system, which dictate police procedures, limits their ability to act at times. It’s an inadequate system, especially in this type of government, where the rights of criminals are valued as much as those who are law-adibing. (My POV is, when a person hurts another on purpose, callously disregarding the rights of that person...then their rights should be disregarded / forfeited to the same degree, if not more so!)



I know you dont, you’re a decent person...your mother did a good job.

We need “the Kingdom” to rule! Matthew 6:10...Revelation 21:3-4

This makes me glad JW don't vote.

 

[tytlyf]

Wow.
Two people shot at near point blank range and you think it will only take five minutes to stabilize them for transport?

My common sense tells me your common sense has no idea what it is talking about.

The hospital is about 3 miles away. I'm not a doctor, I'd only assume they'd have the officers on transport ASAP if they were in critical condition.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

This makes me glad JW don't vote.

Well, revel in your happiness.

What’s wrong with my view?
You like criminals?

 

[stvdv]

I used to but there are too many bad cops that are getting exposed for me not to feel a twinge of fear every time I see one and I'm a 75-year old white male.

I can imagine, I already almost feel a twinge of fear every time I see it on the internet happening.
Dutch Police are real nice compared to American Police (of course there are exceptions, just in general)
But also understandable, because we have no guns in Holland (normal people), so Police has less fear to be gunned down

I am really glad they don't allow us to have guns; would also become Wild West here

 

[McBell]

The hospital is about 3 miles away.

It does not matter how far away the medical facility is.
The victims have to be stable enough to transport.

If it takes five minutes or if it takes an hour, the transport to the medical facility will not happen until they are stabilized enough for transport.

I'm not a doctor,

Nor am I.
However, I have had Emergency Medical Team (EMT) training and served on more than one Emergency Response Team (ERT).

I'd only assume they'd have the officers on transport ASAP if they were in critical condition.

Agreed.
But I understand that ASAP is As Soon As Possible and not Right This Minute.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Well, revel in your happiness.

What’s wrong with my view?
You like criminals?

The irony of being asked if I like criminals by someone supposedly charged to love everyone, including their enemies.

But no, I just acknowledge we happen to live in an era where police brutality against innocent people is at an incredible high and cruelty is justified by fake charges or just the assumption of guilt. I understand that a not inconsiderable number of people called criminals in fact are not, but are people the system has failed.

So no, I am certainly not for waiving rights of people accused to be criminals.

 

[tytlyf]

It does not matter how far away the medical facility is.
The victims have to be stable enough to transport.

If it takes five minutes or if it takes an hour, the transport to the medical facility will not happen until they are stabilized enough for transport.


Nor am I.
However, I have had Emergency Medical Team (EMT) training and served on more than one Emergency Response Team (ERT).


Agreed.
But I understand that ASAP is As Soon As Possible and not Right This Minute.

Without this information, we don't know. I'm still calling BS on BLM/Antifa blocking hospitals. Doesn't make sense. Need more info

 

[McBell]

... where police brutality against innocent people is at an incredible high...

Is it?
Or is it merely being revealed just how high it actually is?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Is it?
Or is it merely being revealed just how high it actually is?

Touché.

 

[McBell]

Without this information, we don't know. I'm still calling BS on BLM/Antifa blocking hospitals. Doesn't make sense. Need more info

I have no idea if they did block the medical facility.
I am merely saying that it is completely possible that they could have.

I also agree that more information is needed for me to accept that they did.

 

[McBell]

Touché.

Don't get me wrong, i sincerely hope it has not always been this high and we are just now finding it out.
But it seems to me that it is a real possibility that it has been this high for quite some time and the public is just now finding it out.

 

[tytlyf]

I have no idea if they did block the medical facility.
I am merely saying that it is completely possible that they could have.

I also agree that more information is needed for me to accept that they did.

Of course you can't rule it out. But common sense tells me they wouldn't even protest a hospital and/or arrival period. I've so far seen reports of 1 man being arrested at the hospital, with a female reporter intervening in the arrest.
I can understand news being there quick, not the general public. Nor would BLM/Antifa rush out to block an emergency room. The possibilities of that narrative are outweighed by common sense.