Two police ambushed; some protesters yell "we hope they die"

[Windwalker]

Where did @KenS suggest that differential treatment was OK with him? As for you, whatever happened to "Love, Light, and Life"?

His words were, "Even when doctors commit injustices, I still trust doctors because overall the vast majority are good doctors.... and good policemen." The context is that bad cops, those who are conditioned as parts of a system of systemic racism, are "bad apples". This is then compared with a doctor "committing injustice". Injustice, that word right there points to that system of systemic racism. If the comparison is cops injustice towards blacks, and then you drag a doctor in with his "injustice". the comparison is direct.

What "Injustice" in doctors are you talking about? Denying blacks healthcare? Preferential treatment of whites? You see? The only "injustice" a doctor might do, is that. An injustice to his minority patients. If he meant "mistake", then he should have said that.

As far as my "religion" goes, I still hold those as the highest truths. This is why when I hear injustice, I say something. Love, Light, and Truth, does not mean a being a daffodil, with rainbows and unicorns. It means being clear about Truth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

To be honest, I would've celebrated the death of Bundy, too. He was a monster who deserved to die as he had no remorse and would've happily continued to do it (hell, he had already broken out of jail to brutalize and murder more young women).

In my opinion, thats no reason to excuse him being killed. And he was a great source of taboo knowledge and subjects, such as his providing a wealth of knowledge on criminal profiling and being a powerful piece of evidence himself on the issue of choice and freewill. And he was clearly a product of circumstance (very likely including genetic "luck of the draw.), like serial killers largely are. Their lives are tragic enough without adding insult to injury.
But yet killing is celebrated. We hope they die is the chant. Sadistic behaviors returned with sadistic behaviors. To me it seems along the same odd logic that excuses alcohol abuse so long as the abuse occurs when it's "culturally normal and appropriate" to do so.

 

[Windwalker]

The poster wanted an explanation.
I offered one.
People buy police frequency scanners.
So it's hardly sci fi to imagine that people
monitor them.

Are you arguing that the events didn't
happen as reported?

That's true of course, but it wouldn't explain how the protesters managed to be all organized and gathered together to block the ambulance and chant let them die, or whatever else is claimed to have happened. They couldn't have managed all that in under 20 minutes, after being tipped off by hearing a report on a police scanner. That's all I was saying. It would require some sort of divine intervention of sorts, like ET.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In my opinion, thats no reason to excuse him being killed. And he was a great source of taboo knowledge and subjects, such as his providing a wealth of knowledge on criminal profiling and being a powerful piece of evidence himself on the issue of choice and freewill. And he was clearly a product of circumstance (very likely including genetic "luck of the draw.), like serial killers largely are. Their lives are tragic enough without adding insult to injury.
But yet killing is celebrated. We hope they die is the chant. Sadistic behaviors returned with sadistic behaviors. To me it seems along the same odd logic that excuses alcohol abuse so long as the abuse occurs when it's "culturally normal and appropriate" to do so.

I have to disagree with you about this. I've always supported the death penalty. I know enough about humanity to know the only real monsters that exist are human. I don't think he was wholly a product of his circumstances as there's surely a genetic component to psychopathy.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I did not say accused! In fact, I excused such a notion. Build strawmen elsewhere.

I never said you did. *I* am using the word accused because several who are arrested, incarcerated, and even convicted are still innocent. Do you deny this? I doubt you do.

If so than shouldn't we consider this margin for error when deciding how we deal with prisoners?

 

[FearGod]

See Anti-Police Protesters Yell 'We Hope They Die' Outside Hospital Where Wounded Deputies Were Taken

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) – After two Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies were wounded in an unprovoked ambush-style shooting in Compton, an anti-police protest unfolded outside the hospital where both were taken for treatment.

Deputies responded to St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood, Calif. on Saturday evening where protesters converged outside of the emergency room with some yelling, “We hope they die.”​

This is disgusting beyond words.

How can you know that it really happened? many stories here and there every now and then,
I don't really believe such stories which makes protesters as if being monsters.
I saw few days ago some protesters making a shield by their bodies to protect
a lonely officer of being harmed by the crowd.

 

[columbus]

They couldn't have managed all that in under 20 minutes

You don't seem to understand modern communication technology.
Sure they could.

I'm not saying it happened. But it's quite possible.
Tom

 

[Hockeycowboy]

I never said you did. *I* am using the word accused because several who are arrested, incarcerated, and even convicted are still innocent. Do you deny this? I doubt you do.

If so than shouldn't we consider this margin for error when deciding how we deal with prisoners?

According to Wikipedia: “2.3 to 5% of all those incarcerated in the USA are wrongfully imprisoned.” That’s equal to about 120,000!

That is bad, to me. Even one person is too many.

I bet it’s worse in other countries, though...with political dissenting, practicing a religion considered illegal, and other non-crimes.

 

[tytlyf]

Would you agree that regardless of whether or not blocking the way to the hospital happened (which I also share doubts) chanting 'hope you die' 'you're next etc which can be clearly heard in the videos of the protest is deplorable as per the op?

From the video, I saw protesters at the hospital. Same with hundreds of police units to show support. I did not see anyone blocking the ambulance that had the wounded officers. It appears these protesters showed up hours later.
I also didn't hear 'hope you die or you're next" said by anyone in the video. Have a timestamp?

 

[Revoltingest]

That's true of course, but it wouldn't explain how the protesters managed to be all organized and gathered together to block the ambulance and chant let them die, or whatever else is claimed to have happened. They couldn't have managed all that in under 20 minutes, after being tipped off by hearing a report on a police scanner. That's all I was saying. It would require some sort of divine intervention of sorts, like ET.

If one person monitors a scanner, & alerts others, this is
a low tech easy thing to do. No extraterrestrials needed.

 

[McBell]

That's true of course, but it wouldn't explain how the protesters managed to be all organized and gathered together to block the ambulance and chant let them die, or whatever else is claimed to have happened. They couldn't have managed all that in under 20 minutes, after being tipped off by hearing a report on a police scanner. That's all I was saying. It would require some sort of divine intervention of sorts, like ET.

Please source your 20 minute time frame.

 

[Stevicus]

How can you know that it really happened? many stories here and there every now and then,
I don't really believe such stories which makes protesters as if being monsters.
I saw few days ago some protesters making a shield by their bodies to protect
a lonely officer of being harmed by the crowd.

I agree that sometimes news stories can get things wrong, although it was reported by multiple outlets. However, just as some say we can't judge the many by the actions of a despicable few, the same could be said about the perpetrator and the people chanting. I don't know if they're trying to make anyone look like monsters, except for those individuals who are exposed as monsters.

Trouble is, the vast majority who are peaceful and law-abiding don't really make the news as much. It's the bad ones, the villains, the monsters - they're the ones who get all the attention and the media coverage.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

See Anti-Police Protesters Yell 'We Hope They Die' Outside Hospital Where Wounded Deputies Were Taken

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) – After two Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies were wounded in an unprovoked ambush-style shooting in Compton, an anti-police protest unfolded outside the hospital where both were taken for treatment.

Deputies responded to St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood, Calif. on Saturday evening where protesters converged outside of the emergency room with some yelling, “We hope they die.”​

This is disgusting beyond words.

Agreed. Horrible. Sad.

I believe it was Jacob Blake’s mother who said she was praying for everyone - including the police.

We need more empathy, not more hate.

 

[tytlyf]

Please source your 20 minute time frame.

The RW narrative that protesters blocked these 2 officers is absurd. Protesters showed up to the hospital hours later.
RW media wants you to believe the protesters blocked these officers and yelled insults at them as they passed by. False narrative, propaganda.
Slick propagandists can have people believing a narrative without actually spelling it out. Fox does this all the time.

 

[columbus]

Slick propagandists can have people believing a narrative without actually spelling it out. Fox does this all the time.

It isn't just RW media by any stretch of the imagination.
Remember when Sandmann was accused and convicted by leftists of "assaulting a Native American elder"? People were sending him and his family death threats. Organizing demonstrations at his school...

Sorry, no. It's not a right wing thing.
Tom

 

[McBell]

The RW narrative that protesters blocked these 2 officers is absurd. Protesters showed up to the hospital hours later.
RW media wants you to believe the protesters blocked these officers and yelled insults at them as they passed by. False narrative, propaganda.
Slick propagandists can have people believing a narrative without actually spelling it out. Fox does this all the time.

Since I have as yet to hear this claim of protesters blocking the officers from the ER any where outside of this thread....
Even after flat out asking for that source as well.

Perhaps you could actually provide a source for this 20 minute claim?
the above quoted reply is an epic fail on that regard.
Which is interesting since a point blank blunt direct straight out request for one is what you replied to.

But at least you are batting 1000 at not providing sources...

More of this alleged "common sense"?

 

[tytlyf]

It isn't just RW media by any stretch of the imagination.
Remember when Sandmann was accused and convicted by leftists of "assaulting a Native American elder"? People were sending him and his family death threats. Organizing demonstrations at his school...

Sorry, no. It's not a right wing thing.
Tom

False equivalence. We get RW examples daily, you get LW? examples every year?

 

[tytlyf]

Since I have as yet to hear this claim of protesters blocking the officers from the ER any where outside of this thread....
Even after flat out asking for that source as well.

Google it. Fox was spreading the false narrative yesterday as well. Even more so.

Perhaps you could actually provide a source for this 20 minute claim?

I didn't make a 20 minute claim.

More of this alleged "common sense"?

You're responding to someone else. Common sense tells me there were no protesters blocking the ambulance with the officers at the hospital.
I'd give 9:1 odds.

 

[McBell]

Google it. Fox was spreading the false narrative yesterday as well. Even more so.

Funny.
I am still unable to find a single news report that claims protesters blocked the police officers from the ER.

I didn't make a 20 minute claim.

No you didn't.
But you did reply to my flat out asking for a source of the 20 minute time frame with a bunch of irrelevant to that asking stuffs.

You're responding to someone else. Common sense tells me there were no protesters blocking the ambulance with the officers at the hospital.
I'd give 9:1 odds.

Hells bells, I STILL can not find a single thing outside this thread that makes that claim.

Even with you claiming they are all over the place.

Of course, your inability to actually site a source is rather suspicious.

 

[tytlyf]

Funny.
I am still unable to find a single news report that claims protesters blocked the police officers from the ER.


No you didn't.
But you did reply to my flat out asking for a source of the 20 minute time frame with a bunch of irrelevant to that asking stuffs.


Hells bells, I STILL can not find a single thing outside this thread that makes that claim.

Even with you claiming they are all over the place.

Of course, your inability to actually site a source is rather suspicious.

As mentioned, I've heard the narrative on Fox multiple days. I was able to find video of Pete Hegseth (reading a teleprompter) and mentioning it.