U.K. Doctors Could Soon Face Action over "Misleading" Social Media Posts

[Subduction Zone]

The world isn't that simple.

True, but logic and evidence far exceeds fiction in accomplishments.

 

[Father Heathen]

The world isn't that simple.

Because willful ignorance, intellectual dishonesty, and scientific illiteracy complicate things. People's emotions and egos are too easily manipulated.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Because willful ignorance, intellectual dishonesty, and scientific illiteracy complicate things. People's emotions and egos are too easily manipulated.

No, because we don't know near as much for certain as you have perhaps been told we do. Especially in the medical field.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, because we don't know near as much for certain as you have perhaps been told we do. Especially in the medical field.

You would have to support that claim and I doubt if you can.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You mean unregulated herbal "alternatives" that have not been demonstrated to be efficacious? Yeah, they should be weeded out. People are wasting their hard earned money on that crap that does nothing, and potentially risking their lives.

If you don't know, you don't know.
Lots of herbal remedies are far better than the crap pills we are told to buy for every tiny ailment, usually with 150 possible side effects.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Inconvenient information? Do tell.

Vaccine side effects by the thousands, perhaps millions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you don't know, you don't know.
Lots of herbal remedies are far better than the crap pills we are told to buy for every tiny ailment, usually with 150 possible side effects.

Again, if you want to claim that the burden of proof is upon you. The reason why that some medicines have no side effects is because there is no medicine in them. They only make you think that you are getting better.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Again, if you want to claim that the burden of proof is upon you. The reason why that some medicines have no side effects is because there is no medicine in them. They only make you think that you are getting better.

Ah, so if something works, it doesn't actually work unless the doctor approved it?
All the proof I need is seeing home remedies work when doctors were useless.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

The world isn't that simple.

You seem to forget that a large number of modern medicines are derived from folk medicines and natural ingredients. two of the most commonly used are aspirin and penicillin. But the list is almost endless.
Doctors and medical scientists are searching for and testing out such natural remedies all the time. However a large proportion of their research goes into refining the active ingredient in them and removing harmful ones. Almost all natural medicines have more harmful side effects than their medicinal versions.

All medicines both natural and refined do have side effects, some effects are actually beneficial, and others are damaging in some way. every proscribed medication comes with a long list of possible side effects and their known frequency.

Untested herbal and folk remedies have just as many side effects, however they are by their nature mostly undocumented. Natural does not mean safe. Belladonna is a useful medicine but it is a deadly poison.
Digitalis (foxglove) is probably responsible for almost as many deaths as lives it has saved.
The problem is that ignorant users, by definition, have no idea what they are doing.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You seem to forget that a large number of modern medicines are derived from folk medicines and natural ingredients. two of the most commonly used are aspirin and penicillin. But the list is almost endless.
Doctors and medical scientists are searching for and testing out such natural remedies all the time. However a large proportion of their research goes into refining the active ingredient in them and removing harmful ones. Almost all natural medicines have more harmful side effects than their medicinal versions.

All medicines both natural and refined do have side effects, some effects are actually beneficial, and others are damaging in some way. every proscribed medication comes with a long list of possible side effects and their known frequency.

Untested herbal and folk remedies have just as many side effects, however they are by their nature mostly undocumented. Natural does not mean safe. Belladonna is a useful medicine but it is a deadly poison.
Digitalis (foxglove) is probably responsible for almost as many deaths as lives it has saved.
The problem is that ignorant users, by definition, have no idea what they are doing.

Why would you assume people who use natural medicine are ignorant?

 

[Twilight Hue]

But isn't that tyranny to force doctors to abide by a professional standard? Shouldn't a doctor have the freedom to prescribe your child eye of newt for a serious condition?

Wouldn't be a doctor I'd go to.

But the next person? Eh.. each to their own.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why would you assume people who use natural medicine are ignorant?

Some of it is legit but the chemistry can become complicated.

 

[Father Heathen]

Wouldn't be a doctor I'd go to.

But the next person? Eh.. each to their own.

How would you magically know whether or not your doctor was a malpracticing quack before it was too late?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Why would you assume people who use natural medicine are ignorant?

In matters of health probably. But some do it because they can not afford mainstream medicines. And the do not have access to a universal health service. In the UK people who use folk medicine are few and far between. And are thought pretty odd.

 

[Twilight Hue]

How would you magically know whether or not your doctor was a malpracticing quack before it was too late?

If it works it works.

If it doesn't it dosent.

 

[Father Heathen]

If it works it works.

If it doesn't it dosent.

So in other words let the patent roll the dice rather than hold doctors to standards and expectations? No accountability for harming or betraying the trust of those in their care?

 

[Twilight Hue]

So in other words let the patent roll the dice rather than hold doctors to standards and expectations? No accountability for harming or betraying the trust of those in their care?

Well I'm sure people won't go back to that doctor anymore. Reputation is far more effective than declaration.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well I'm sure people won't go back to that doctor anymore. Reputation is far more effective than declaration.

Physicians tend to not get bad reputations until
long after much damage has been done. In MI,
we've had a couple docs who molested many
hundreds of patients over decades before their
crimes were discovered.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Physicians tend to not get bad reputations until
long after much damage has been done. In MI,
we've had a couple docs who molested many
hundreds of patients over decades before their
crimes were discovered.

Well there goes their reputation. Salted.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well there goes their reputation.

Alas, their bad reputations took too long to become known.
One, Dr Anderson died of old age before becaming notorious.