esmith
Veteran Member
Seems the Biden honeymoon with Eurpoean allies didn't last long.
Biden heads to NATO amid friction over Afghanistan withdrawal
Biden heads to NATO amid friction over Afghanistan withdrawal
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U.S. European Allies Not Happy With Biden's Afghanstain Policy
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, Trump and Biden should have done better.
Well, the first paragraph was wrong so i assume the rest follows suite .. it was not Bidens idea,
The article is dated 6/16/21, so it's two months old. It doesn't cover more recent events occurring in Afghanistan.
I can talk for my own country.
People here never mention the US missions, simply because they have nothing to do with Europe.
With the EU, with the ECB ..
These are the topics we talk about.
People here never mention the US missions, simply because they have nothing to do with Europe.
With the EU, with the ECB ..
These are the topics we talk about.
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I agree but here's my question, the Afghan defense force had 15-20 years to prepare for this. What happened?
Quite simple: they were charged with upholding a government with almost no support in the populace, even in the defense force itself.
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
As I understand it they were taught to fight short running actions with close air support, as one commentator put it, its like teaching an Olympic bike team on the best bikes then sending them to the Olympics with a Raleigh chopper.
IMO, we ought to have been smart enough to foresee the circumstance they would have to deal with when we withdrew. Perhaps war has become too easy for the US and we've lost our tactical intelligence.
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
Exactly what some members of the British Armed forces are saying, my mate trained Afgans at RAF Culdrose he could not believe that the tactical air support he trained them on was being removed.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
As polymath said.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
We, as the Us and the coalition should never have invaded in first place.
The Taliban was the government when we went in. We wouldn't have attempted to remove them if they had given us Al-Qaeda. So things are gong back to the way they were before we got involved.
I agree, but we needed our terrorists.
Should we have supported the Taliban government?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Trump wanted us out on May 1st of this year, which would leave us even less prepared, but Biden felt that this was rushing things too much.
And one would have hoped that we learned our lesson in Vietnam that occupying another country is fraught with difficulty, but we have the memory span of a gnat.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
The following other also bad options were:
Pay the Taliban off to not harbor terrorists.
Get near by airbases, pay off one of the ex-Sovjet Stans and bomb terrorist bases.
Alling with the current northern warlord and go on punitive raids.
Combine all of the above.
This is classical empire behavior towards unrulily barbarians.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Especially seeing how Obama's withdrawal cleared the way for ISIS.
The return of the Taliban should have been anticipated and planned for.
But now everyone's efforts amd sacrifices were crapped on and nulled and voided.