U.S. House approves bill banning transgender student athletes in girls sports

[mikkel_the_dane]

All people have a right to a safe public environment. Females have voiced legitimate concerns about their safety by allowing people with phalli in their dressing rooms.

No, they need more guns. You are leaving the safety to the government, you are such a leftie and statist. The government is evil and should stay out of people's life.
You are given the government more power, don't you see that? Are you really an undercover leftie?!!
There is no society, only individuals and the problem is the idea that more government can solve that. Don't you know that?

 

[Shaul]

No, they need more guns. You are leaving the safety to the government, you are such a leftie and statist. The government is evil and should stay out of people's life.
You are given the government more power, don't you see that? Are you really an undercover leftie?!!
There is no society, only individuals and the problem is the idea that more government can solve that. Don't you know that?

I didn't say the ladies shouldn't also be armed. I don't fear a woman legitimately exercising her right to bear arms. Do you?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I didn't say the ladies shouldn't also be armed. I don't fear a woman legitimately exercising her right to bear arms. Do you?

Okay, let us think this through. Men are dangerous, that is a fact according to you.
Now we have transmen and transwomen.
A transwoman shouldn't be in a female area, but a transman should. But a transman is dangerous to women, because he is on male hormones and could be into women.

So now both transmen and transwomen are not allowed in female areas. So they have to be among men, but they are dangerous. Remember transmen and transwomen could also have legitimate concerns about their safety, because men are dangerous, because of their hormones and their junk.
So to do that you need four areas to be safe.
Or are the rights of trans people to a safe public area not a right?

 

[Colt]

All people have a right to a safe public environment. Females have voiced legitimate concerns about their safety by allowing people with phalli in their dressing rooms.

Maybe trans people forfeit their right to play gender specific sports?

 

[fantome profane]

Maybe trans people forfeit their right to play gender specific sports?

So you admit it is a right.

 

[Shaul]

Okay, let us think this through. Men are dangerous, that is a fact according to you.

I didn't write that. For the record people are potentially dangerous, regardless of sex.

Now we have transmen and transwomen.

I don't accept this premise. There are people that have a diagnosed condition called gender dyphoria. I don't agree that a person can change their innate gender.

A transwoman shouldn't be in a female area, but a transman should. But a transman is dangerous to women, because he is on male hormones and could be into women.

Nobody wrote that. What I wrote is that females have a certain rights and that a majority of them don't want to share certain public facilities.

So now both transmen and transwomen are not allowed in female areas. So they have to be among men, but they are dangerous. Remember transmen and transwomen could also have legitimate concerns about their safety, because men are dangerous, because of their hormones and their junk.
So to do that you need four areas to be safe.
Or are the rights of trans people to a safe public area not a right?

Nobody wrote anything like the rest of this. So you are making up straw men.

 

[Shaul]

Maybe trans people forfeit their right to play gender specific sports?

Maybe the treatments they of their own volition elect to have include giving up certain rights and privileges.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Not a single Democrat voted yes for the bill.

... which gives it zero chance of overriding Biden's promised veto.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Maybe the treatments they of their own volition elect to have include giving up certain rights and privileges.

Maybe the schools athletic departments should make those decisions of their own volition.

Or can we not trust schools to decide what's best for their students?

 

[Colt]

So you admit it is a right.

Admit? See what happens when you encounter a grizzly bear alone in the forest. Explain to the bear that you have a “right to life”.

This issue is a recent invention due to the fad of people deciding that they don’t like their gender. They are trying to use the power of the law to legitimize their acting careers.

 

[Shaul]

... which gives it zero chance of overriding Biden's promised veto.

Which requires Biden to go on record opposing the wishes of females to not be required to share facilities with people with phalli.

 

[Colt]

Maybe the treatments they of their own volition elect to have include giving up certain rights and privileges.

Yes! It’s a new issue based on a fad or trending spiritual and mental sickness. The problem didn’t exist until recently.

 

[Shaul]

Maybe the schools athletic departments should make those decisions of their own volition.

Or can we not trust schools to decide what's best for their students?

Or maybe the schools can respect the rights of the vast majority of females that don't want people with phalli in hanging around when they are vulnerable. And maybe the schools could be held responsible for any consequences of allowing trans people in the ladies dressing rooms, including civil and criminal liability for create an unsafe environment.

 

[fantome profane]

Admit? See what happens when you encounter a grizzly bear alone in the forest. Explain to the bear that you have a “right to life”.

This issue is a recent invention due to the fad of people deciding that they don’t like their gender. They are trying to use the power of the law to legitimize their acting careers.

This is not a fad, there have been transgender people since the human race had a concept of gender. In every culture. Not something new.

The fact that some people are currently freaking out about it is a fad.

 

[Callisto]

Maybe trans people forfeit their right to play gender specific sports?

They can continue to compete against others of their same biological sex or perhaps sports organizations should explore the viability of having a third division for trans athletes.

 

[metis]

All people have a right to a safe public environment. Females have voiced legitimate concerns about their safety by allowing people with phalli in their dressing rooms.

That, as usual, makes 0 sense. I have been in mixed bathrooms in Europe and Quebec, and I can say emphatically that you simply do not know what you're talking about and are so arrogant that you think you can talk for them.

 

[Shaul]

That, as usual, makes 0 sense. I have been in mixed bathrooms in Europe and Quebec, and I can say emphatically that you simply do not know what you're talking about and are so arrogant that you think you can talk for them.

It makes perfect sense. You don't decide whether other people feel a situation is threatening, they do. It isn't I who is arrogantly thinking I can speak for anyone, it is you. Because you have been in mixed bathrooms you appear to be presuming to dismiss the concerns many women have when people with phalli are allowed in facilities when they are most vulnerable. You don't get to do that.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Which requires Biden to go on record opposing the wishes of females to not be required to share facilities with people with phalli.

Biden has already gone on the record supporting individual schools making those decisions themselves, and not having government overstep its authority by making blanket decisions for them.

Biden's opposition is hoping that you're too ignorant to know that -- disappoint them.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Or maybe the schools can respect the rights of the vast majority of females that don't want people with phalli in hanging around when they are vulnerable. And maybe the schools could be held responsible for any consequences of allowing trans people in the ladies dressing rooms, including civil and criminal liability for create an unsafe environment.

First of all, why is it always "females" and not women?

Second, why is there never any mention of people without phalli in the male's locker rooms where the boys are vulnerable? Transgenderism goes both ways, you know...

Third, if the vast majority of women in the Boise, Idaho school district don't want it, then the Boise, Idaho School district will make the decision to ban trans athletes. On the other hand, if the vast majority of women in the Duluth, Minnesota school district don't have a problem with it, then the Duluth, Minnesota School District can allow it.... and so on.

We call it "local government," and it works pretty well. There's always a better solution than letting Big Government do all the thinking for you...

 

[fantome profane]

Biden has already gone on the record supporting individual schools making those decisions themselves, and not having government overstep its authority by making blanket decisions for them.

Biden's opposition is hoping that you're too ignorant to know that -- disappoint them.

Interestingly I have seen Biden get a lot of criticism from the left for saying that. The feeling being if they left it up to individual schools they could make horrible unfair decisions. And that is true. But I agree with Biden, I think individual schools who know the situation are the only ones with a hope of making the right decision.