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Unbridled Capitalism is self-destructive
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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As you have?
Stories from family from there were horrifying.
They complain about high prices & low wages
under capitalism. Beats eating bugs & mice
in a re-education camp, even if they're free.
Have you been to the store lately? I see plenty of bare shelves and complaints of shortages and supply chain problems.
Audie
Veteran Member
Why do you ask?
To dodge what I said ?
Here's socialist " out with the old,
in with the new" Complete with heroic realism.
We Never Know
No Slack
"Only when the last tree has died, the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money" -the internet
Now since there seems to be some disagreements where that quote came from, I will simply attribute it to the internet.
Now since there seems to be some disagreements where that quote came from, I will simply attribute it to the internet.
Your silliness has been noted.
Audie
Veteran Member
How you must suffer
We have supply problems.
Socialism lacks supply to have problems with.
Criticism should be tempered with mirth.
Audie
Veteran Member
And then there's motivation.
We Never Know
No Slack
Since the panic of covid has gone away, anytime I go to the store they have everything I need.
Whatever one does, it's shared.
One's work makes an insignificant difference.
Let someone else do it.
How do they get rid of mice in the Kremlin?
Post a sign saying WORKERS COLLECTIVE.
Half will starve.
The other half will flee.
I'm not dodging anything. You're the one who suggested that socialists should have had the chance to experience Mao's time in China. I'm not acceding to your irrational and illogical attempt at guilt by association, so there's nothing for me to "dodge."
I realize that China has gone through some horrific times. Even if I wasn't there to experience it, I've read plenty of horror stories - not just about Mao, though. The Japanese occupiers were pretty nasty, too, and Chiang Kai-Shek's Kuomintang were also quite a piece of work.
In fact, this site has some interesting facts: Twentieth Century Atlas - Historical Body Count
I posted about this nearly five years ago in a thread where @Revoltingest and I had the same discussion we're having now: The answer is a communist party
Rank | Death Toll | Cause | Centuries |
| 1 | 66 million | Second World War | 20C |
| 2 | 40 million | Mao Zedong (mostly famine) | 20C |
| 40 million | Genghis Khan | 13C | |
| 4 | 27 million | British India (mostly famine) | 19C |
| 5 | 25 million | Fall of the Ming Dynasty | 17C |
| 6 | 20 million | Taiping Rebellion | 19C |
| 20 million | Joseph Stalin | 20C | |
| 8 | 18½ million | Mideast Slave Trade | 7C-19C |
| 9 | 17 million | Timur Lenk | 14C-15C |
| 10 | 16 million | Atlantic Slave Trade | 15C-19C |
| 11 | 15 million | First World War | 20C |
| 15 million | Conquest of the Americas | 15C-19C | |
| 13 | 13 million | An Lushan Revolt | 8C |
| 14 | 10 million | Xin Dynasty | 1C |
| 10 million | Congo Free State | 19C-20C | |
| 16 | 9 million | Russian Civil War | 20C |
| 17 | 7½ million | Thirty Years War | 17C |
| 7½ million | Fall of the Yuan Dynasty | 14C | |
| 19 | 7 million | Fall of Rome | 5C |
| 7 million | Chinese Civil Wars | 20C |
Look at how many of these events involve China. Not just Mao, but also Genghis Khan, Fall of the Ming Dynasty, the Taiping Rebellion, An Lushan Revolt, Xin Dynasty, Fall of the Yuan Dynasty, Chinese Civil Wars. 8 out of the 20 events listed here of the worst things humans have done in recorded history.
So, if your only purpose in this discussion is to talk about who the worst people in history were, then we can have that discussion. But as I pointed out in the earlier thread, political systems don't kill people. People kill people.
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Naah, it's fine. My needs are few.
How would you know what socialism lacks?
Yeah, but then we could keep posting that "Irony" gif back and forth, since you've made many similarly ironic comments. It's just part of your style. It's irritating but it kind of grows on one after a while.
I've noticed it depends on the product. It's not that bad, nor was it ever really that bad in socialist countries, despite certain people's exaggerations about things they can't possibly know about. There were occasional shortages in the USSR, just like we've had here. It happens.
Audie
Veteran Member
You actually think your envy
has nothing to with being greedy?
Droll.
It's your envy that drives your cant n rant.
It's you I'm addressing not yonder peasants.
That you've no success in business is evident.
I could buy everything you own and give it to charity.
No envy? Your posts drip with it.
And, "social darwinism"? That is bs for sure. So is
pretending it's me came up with it!
Run business for charity? Droll as droll can be.
You surely do prove your point with such drivel.
Not the point you think, tho.
You think you know how things work? Ever sit on
a corporate board? Invest in anythjng bigger tha a car ?
Start an enterprise, provide jobs?
Ha. As if.
I'll admit I didn't get a flat in Repulse Bay,
another here in S'pore, and the money I play with by working in a noodle factory. It's nice to get a head start.
But hey. You know so much?You come to Hong Kong, try your hand.
In business. Find out which of us knows what
they're talking about. I do it for fun. I've a feeling
you would not have fun.
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You mistakenly attribute things to capitalism.
You think that because I find your arguments
vapid & irrelevant that this is to duck & dodge
them. Just a misunderstanding.