Unity in Submission to God’s Counsels.

[CG Didymus]

I am not here to change anyone CG, as I know I am unable to. All have the choice to carry on as normal CG, you and all that disagree can follow what you think will help humanity.

Why do Baha'is call it... "teaching" the Faith then? Baha'is are trying to present their religion as something necessary for all people to listen to and believe in. Baha'is seem to believe that without the teachings of the Baha'i Faith that peace and unity are impossible. I would think you'd be trying your hardest to convince others that the Baha'i Faith is true... That your prophet, Baha'u'llah, is the "Divine Physican" and only he knows the right medicine to cure the ills of the world.

But... if you're not here to change anyone, then don't try. Just listen to what they have to say and move on. But... that's not what's happening here. Baha'is start threads and post replies that get people thinking about and listening to Baha'i beliefs. And again, I'm glad Baha'is are doing that. But, if I don't agree with some of the Baha'i beliefs, I'm going to say so and say why I don't agree with it.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Why do Baha'is call it... "teaching" the Faith then? Baha'is are trying to present their religion as something necessary for all people to listen to and believe in. Baha'is seem to believe that without the teachings of the Baha'i Faith that peace and unity are impossible. I would think you'd be trying your hardest to convince others that the Baha'i Faith is true... That your prophet, Baha'u'llah, is the "Divine Physican" and only he knows the right medicine to cure the ills of the world.

But... if you're not here to change anyone, then don't try. Just listen to what they have to say and move on. But... that's not what's happening here. Baha'is start threads and post replies that get people thinking about and listening to Baha'i beliefs. And again, I'm glad Baha'is are doing that. But, if I don't agree with some of the Baha'i beliefs, I'm going to say so and say why I don't agree with it.

This is the WWW CG. The replies are not for those that do not want to hear. It is the Word that changes hearts, that is why quotes are used. That Word is not from me.

I offer we share the information to those that may not have heard and to those that ask for more information, whatever the context. That is why replies are also given to those that have no interest, as someone else who may be interested, staying away from the discussion, may have the same question.

To those people it is indirect sharing.

I see teaching begins and is no longer sharing concepts, when a person has interest in embracing the change, the concepts can then be discussed in greater detail. When that happens, both learn from the exchange.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

Every religion tells us what we need to do. The one I'm most familiar with is the Born-Again Christian one. In that one, a believer is supposed to preach the "good news" that Jesus died to save you from your sins, and he is coming back. When he comes back he will cast Satan and all evil doers in a fiery abyss. Prior to his coming many false messiahs will rise up making all sorts of promises. Those Christians interpret some of the verses to mean that one of the false messiahs will try to bring about world unity.

Between them and the Baha'is Faith, there's two very different and opposing messages. Both need to be looked at and discussed/debated. You claim they are wrong and have misinterpreted those verses. They say you are following a false religion. By Baha'i standards, what should we do? Investigate and find out what is going on. You both can't be right. And then add in the other religions, and without some tweaking, those other religions don't fit all that well with Baha'i beliefs. We need to look at the verses and determine who's correct. As it stands, all of the religions have a different view on what are the "counsels" of God... not to mention who and what God is, as to how many Gods there are or if there is a God at all.

We could discuss/debate this till the cows come home and we would still end up with differing beliefs, each side believing they are correct.

Who is correct can never be proven, it is all a matter of personal opinion/belief.
If you want to know who is correct, you need to look at the verses and determine who 'you believe' is correct.
Nobody can do that for you. That is what Independent Investigation of Truth is all about.

I suggest you go about this investigation differently from what you have been doing for so many years, but that is because I care about you.

We all understand that the Baha'is believe they are right. But, as seen in all these threads, lots of us disagree.

We all understand that the Christians believe they are right. But, as seen in all these threads, lots of us disagree.