Universal Reconciliation religion.

[Meshak]

Jesus says clearly and simply that "For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life".

Yet UC says everyone will be saved, even murderers without repenting.

And they are claiming to be Christians.

They are mocking Jesus' word.

 

[Meshak]

Mainstream churches are going down and down watering down Jesus' teachings. UC is the worst one in my observation.

 

[Sunstone]

Jesus says clearly and simply that "For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life".

Yet UC says everyone will be saved, even murderers without repenting.

And they are claiming to be Christians.

They are mocking Jesus' word.

Surely they are not mocking Jesus' word according to a strictly logical interpretation of the passage. Isn't it only if you indulge in loose logic that you can say the passage precludes salvation in all cases except if and when someone believes in Jesus? For there is nothing in the passage as it stands to suggest that the only way to salvation is belief in Jesus. It's mere tradition to interpret it that way. At least that's how I see it. What am I missing?

 

[Straw Dog]

Mainstream churches are going down and down watering down Jesus' teachings. UC is the worst one in my observation.

Actually, I do remember reading that universalism was one of the original, popular streams of Christian thought in the first few centuries until it was deemed heresy after the Counsel of Nicea, where men mostly interested in power decided what everyone should believe.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Universal reconciliation is certainly a dangerous idea, to Christians attempting to maintain a circle of converts, that is.

 

[Meshak]

Universal reconciliation is certainly a dangerous idea, to Christians attempting to maintain a circle of converts, that is.

It is not just dangerous, it is certainly opposite of what Jesus says. It is anti-Christ religion, IMO.

 

[Meshak]

Actually, I do remember reading that universalism was one of the original, popular streams of Christian thought in the first few centuries until it was deemed heresy after the Counsel of Nicea, where men mostly interested in power decided what everyone should believe.

Would you elaborate please?

 

[Meshak]

Surely they are not mocking Jesus' word according to a strictly logical interpretation of the passage. Isn't it only if you indulge in loose logic that you can say the passage precludes salvation in all cases except if and when someone believes in Jesus? For there is nothing in the passage as it stands to suggest that the only way to salvation is belief in Jesus. It's mere tradition to interpret it that way. At least that's how I see it. What am I missing?

Take look at this simple word of Jesus "For God so loved....whoever believe in Him..."

Where does it say everyone?

 

[Sunstone]

Take look at this simple word of Jesus "For God so loved....whoever believe in Him..."

Where does it say everyone?

And where does it say that's the only way to salvation?

 

[Meshak]

Actually, I do remember reading that universalism was one of the original, popular streams of Christian thought in the first few centuries until it was deemed heresy after the Counsel of Nicea, where men mostly interested in power decided what everyone should believe.

do you know that they say even murders, child molesters and all hideous criminals without repenting get salvation?

New Testament use the word "repent" tons of times.

 

[Meshak]

Where does it say not everyone?

Whoever believes in Him is not everyone. You need to go back to grade school for English comprehension skill, friend.

 

[Sunstone]

Whoever believes in Him is not everyone. You need to go back to grade school for English comprehension skill, friend.

You need to take a college level course in logic, friend. You are clueless about what you speak of.

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

Vanakkam,

You need to go back to grade school for English comprehension skill, friend.

Maybe you need to go back outside for basic social interaction skill, friend...This include being a little more tolerant and less agressive to people

Aum Namah Shivaya

 

[Meshak]

Vanakkam,
Maybe you need to go back outside for basic social interaction skill, friend...This include being a little more tolerant and less agressive to people

Aum Namah Shivaya

I am a Christian and I speak for Jesus. Jesus is not for popularity, dear. I am not here to get popularity. I would be in politics if I desire to be a popular.

It is no wonder UR is so popular in this forum, too many non-Christians here.

 

[Tarheeler]

Vanakkam,



Maybe you need to go back outside for basic social interaction skill, friend...This include being a little more tolerant and less agressive to people

Aum Namah Shivaya

Tolerance is irrelevant when you're trying to spread The Truth (tm).

Jesus says clearly and simply that "For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life".

Yet UC says everyone will be saved, even murderers without repenting.

And they are claiming to be Christians.

They are mocking Jesus' word.

The verse you have quoted says nothing about repentance. It states that faith alone is all that is required.

 

[Meshak]

You need to take a college level course in logic, friend. You are clueless about what you speak of.

I dont need college level to understand simple English, friend.

 

[Sunstone]

I am a Christian and I speak for Jesus.

I think in truth, you speak for your interpretation of Jesus.

 

[Meshak]

Tolerance is irrelevant when your trying to spread The Truth (tm).



The verse you have quoted says nothing about repentance. It states that faith alone is all that is required.

Nope, you are reading more than it is said.

and Jesus elaborate what it takes to believe in Him in the whole messages in the NT.

I guess you are not reading the NT with open heart without preconceived notion.

 

[Meshak]

I think in truth, you speak for your interpretation of Jesus.

Isnt that what all of are doing? Yes, we are. Even you, friend.

But we have to know that we all will be judged according to how we read and spread and practice.

If we are spreading deceitfully or wrongfully, we will be severely judged by God and Jesus.

 

[savagewind]

If deceit is sow, deceit will be reaped. Deceit causes confusion. Confusion causes a separating, not a coming together as Hebrews 10:25 warns about. Be saved in Christ,come to the light. Saved means delivered, does it not? People can be delivered to sin and darkness. And they have been.