Universal Reconciliation religion.

[Sunstone]

"The world" is everyone.

I wish I still had frubals to give you.

 

[Tarheeler]

then why are you opposed to my OP and understanding of John 3-16?

Because you have claimed that it makes repentance a condition even though it clearly states the faith in Jesus alone is the sole requirement.

Nope it is not new. John Calvin is not new leader. this is about UR, not Calvinism. But I know John Calvin twisted around the scripture and making up his own salvation too.

And yet, in this case, Calvinism and Universal Reconciliation find common ground in the scripture.


But I will admit that, a least for me, this is purely academic. I left Christianity some time ago. But the idea that once a person accepted Jesus there was nothing that could seperate them was common in some of the Baptist churches I attended. Of course, some of the other Baptist churches I attended were of the "every choice can send you to hell" variety.

I always though it was fairly ridiculous that they would cite the same verses to back up totally opposing ideas.

 

[sojourner]

Vanakkam,



Maybe you need to go back outside for basic social interaction skill, friend...This include being a little more tolerant and less agressive to people

Aum Namah Shivaya

I seem to remember that Jesus only lashed out in aggression one time -- and that was when the Temple was desecrated. The aggression seems to be flying rather indiscriminately for one who claims to follow Jesus.

 

[sojourner]

I am a Christian and I speak for Jesus. Jesus is not for popularity, dear. I am not here to get popularity. I would be in politics if I desire to be a popular.

It is no wonder UR is so popular in this forum, too many non-Christians here.

Well, I am a Christian and I speak for Jesus, too. Jesus is for love and connection. How do you think these two disparate views can be reconciled?

Universalism is so popular because it more accurately reflects the liberation aspect of Jesus' work than the alternative viewpoint expressed here.

 

[Meshak]

Man, it must really suck going through life thinking that you're going to be the only one in heaven after you die. That has to be the loneliest feeling in the world.

You speak as if you know how many are faithful to Jesus. Being faithful to Jesus is not popular but you should know there are a lot of faithful one in the word. They are not loud mouth like non-believers. Most faithful ones are humble and quiet about their faithfulness.

I know many of them.

 

[savagewind]

BTW, please explain how these concepts are "anti-Christ?"

Mark 7:14 Means believing in Christ is to listen and understand what he has said (and I believe) is saying.

Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand"

To be saved means to come to an understanding of truth through Yehoshua (Jesus). Who is prone to listen to every word he says if they believe to be saved means to believe that he was, is and is coming? What good is that, please?

 

[sojourner]

I guess you are not reading the NT with open heart without preconceived notion.

I guess you would know that better than the rest of us, since by your posts you appear to be so well schooled in that practice.

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

Vanakkam,

Man, it must really suck going through life thinking that you're going to be the only one in heaven after you die. That has to be the loneliest feeling in the world.

So, do you mean that we'll all meet in hell ? Sweet, I hope you'll be the first to throw the party then ! That will be something

 

[Meshak]

Universalism is so popular because it more accurately reflects the liberation aspect of Jesus' work than the alternative viewpoint expressed here.

You are dismissing many, many of Jesus' word, deliberately.

Jesus says if you follow Him, you will be persecuted.

If you are popular, you are certainly not His follower.

 

[sojourner]

Isnt that what all of are doing? Yes, we are. Even you, friend.

But we have to know that we all will be judged according to how we read and spread and practice.

If we are spreading deceitfully or wrongfully, we will be severely judged by God and Jesus.

Which do you think will reflect better on the spiritual resume: spreading exclusion, or spreading loving acceptance? :group:

 

[sojourner]

Saved means delivered, does it not?

"Saved," in this context, more closely means "reconciled." And it's clear that the reconciliation that happens is reconciliation with God.

Don't be confusing. That's a bad thing.

 

[Sunstone]

Which do you think will reflect better on the spiritual resume: spreading exclusion, or spreading loving acceptance? :group:

Surely Christ said, "Those who reject the most people are the nearest to me". Oh wait... he didn't say that.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

You speak as if you know how many are faithful to Jesus. Being faithful to Jesus is not popular but you should know there are a lot of faithful one in the word. They are not loud mouth like non-believers. Most faithful ones are humble and quiet about their faithfulness.

I know many of them.

ROFL.....are you claiming you've been humble and quiet about your faithfulness?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the morning laugh.

 

[Meshak]

Which do you think will reflect better on the spiritual resume: spreading exclusion, or spreading loving acceptance? :group:

You will be excluded if you dont live Jesus' message of repent of wicked way of living.

Why do you give people false assurance?
It is being disnoest.

 

[savagewind]

Which do you think will reflect better on the spiritual resume: spreading exclusion, or spreading loving acceptance? :group:

Can anyone show me where the poster is being accepted lovingly?

 

[Meshak]

ROFL.....are you claiming you've been humble and quiet about your faithfulness?

Did I say that? You need to go back to grade shcool for reading skill, IMO.

 

[savagewind]

"Saved," in this context, more closely means "reconciled." And it's clear that the reconciliation that happens is reconciliation with God.

Don't be confusing. That's a bad thing.

OK. Delivered to God's peace. How about that?

 

[sojourner]

I am here to educate about Jesus' word to the world.

Your cause would be advanced further if you were actually knowledgeable about your product.

 

[savagewind]

Did I say that? You need to go back to grade shcool for reading skill, IMO.

No I did not hear you say that. Are you not being fished by them? It takes a while to learn to not take the bait.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Did I say that? You need to go back to grade shcool for reading skill, IMO.

This is priceless.

You could just answer the question rather than being evasive.