Madsaac
Active Member
I am curious how this would of happened 2000 years a go
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'Unliftable Stone' Paradox - Logically flawed argument people make even today
- Thread starter firedragon
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I am curious how this would of happened 2000 years a go
McBell
Unbound
The same way it would happen these days.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Can you define what an "illogical possibility" is?
firedragon
Veteran Member
Mate. You are talking about a birth. A bigger thing happened millions of years ago. Genesis. Was that also logically impossible in your paradigm?
You have to seriously redesign your sources of knowledge. Develop an honest epistemic responsibility. Cheers.
Madsaac
Active Member
Yeah sorry mate, how would it happen, honestly just humour me
firedragon
Veteran Member
According to Christians, and Most Muslims, it was a miracle. Obviously.
Madsaac
Active Member
Logical impossibility is simply non-sense, and thus cannot be made “real” in physical terms in the first place.
In logic, when we say something is "logically impossible," we mean that it violates the fundamental principles of logic or reason. These principles form the basis of rational thought and argumentation, and they help us distinguish between what is possible and what is not.
If something is logically impossible, it means that it cannot be true or cannot exist without leading to a contradiction. In other words, it would violate the laws of logic, such as the law of non-contradiction or the law of excluded middle.
Something is logically impossible if it is contradictory, or against the laws of logic. Thus a round square is a logical impossibility, and it is logically impossible to be a tall man without being tall.
There you go.
No I don't and I'm more then happy with mine, thanks.
From your tone, you sound like you're happy with yours as well, so tell me, what does 'logical impossibility' have to do with the existence of God?
Madsaac
Active Member
Do you believe it was a miracle?
firedragon
Veteran Member
Well, IF it happened, of course it was a miracle.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Yeah. You just explained that your statement about a miraculous pregnancy was a logical impossibility was false.
Existence of God? That's not the topic. Irrelevant.
Madsaac
Active Member
Do you think it happened?
Yes okay, but if it did relate to the existence of God? How?
Do you agree?
firedragon
Veteran Member
That's irrelevant. You are trying to build a red herring and derail the thread. I am not interested brother.
Again, irrelevant.
Agree with what? Please be precise.
Madsaac
Active Member
Do you agree that my statement about a miraculous pregnancy was a logical impossibility was false.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Yes. It was false.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Some people say many nonsensical things. It's their arrogance that impedes their intention to research about a statement they are gonna make. Fallacious things people say does not mean I have to engage with red herrings.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
That is news to me. How can humans violate the laws of logic?
firedragon
Veteran Member
Could you tell me precisely what law of logic humans could violate?
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Not all logical traditions are identical; systems of logic are based on axioms which may not be universally accepted. The law of the excluded middle vs the tetralemma or catuskoti, is perhaps the best known example of contradictory laws of logic.
Catuṣkoṭi - Wikipedia
The wider point is that logic is not reality, it is a product of our human perception of reality.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Bingo.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
I agree they are a product of our experience in reality. Until someone can tell me how the three basic laws of logic can be violated I will believe they do reflect reality.