UPenn transgender swimmer continues dominant season with more record-breaking wins

[Revoltingest]

I hope people would reflect on what the Scriptures say but how is that judgemental, hate speech and bigotry? Please explain.

OK.

"The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works...."

So the heathen is a "fool" who is "corrupt", & does "abominable works", eh.

"....There is none who does good."

No heathen "does good", eh.

In our society I find this to be quite accurate.

Uh oh.

The other thing is that by your comment you still have a conscience, this also is evidence of God and a gift from Him.

It's also evidence that a conscience is a
useful trait resulting from evolution.

I see no reasonable inference from your
quoted scripture other than a severe &
bigoted attack on atheists.
This Bible is one dangerous book.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

A man will always be a man, all he can do is mess himself up by trying to look and act like a female by trying to transition himself medically, surgically and by a lot of make-up.

So technically we are all female, since we start out in the womb with essentially female parts and those change according to hormonal balances? I suggest this because medical science is becoming more and more capable of producing changes surgically and hormonally so that the chemical and physical elements of "male" and "female" can be present where they weren't before.

At what point do we just accept that this person whose chemical and physical features show no sign of being male is female? Since genetics don't function perfectly within this dichotomy, I would suggest that it is a subjective judgement not based on evidence.

Sex Begins in the Womb - Exploring the Biological Contributions to Human Health - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[ElishaElijah]

This Bible is one dangerous book.

If that’s what you see you haven’t understood or read it. What is the message of the Bible? You’re the one who said God was imaginary, that seems to be the bigoted and ignorant view.

 

[ElishaElijah]

So technically we are all female, since we start out in the womb with essentially female parts and those change according to hormonal balances? I suggest this because medical science is becoming more and more capable of producing changes surgically and hormonally so that the chemical and physical elements of "male" and "female" can be present where they weren't before.

At what point do we just accept that this person whose chemical and physical features show no sign of being male is female? Since genetics don't function perfectly within this dichotomy, I would suggest that it is a subjective judgement not based on evidence.

Sex Begins in the Womb - Exploring the Biological Contributions to Human Health - NCBI Bookshelf

This swimmer is a man and cannot become a female no matter what is done surgically, all that will be done is making this man a castrated guy and destroy his body. He will always be a man but dress him up to resemble a female.

 

[Revoltingest]

If that’s what you see you haven’t understood or read it. What is the message of the Bible?

I read the passage you quoted.
Does it mean something other than what it says?

You’re the one who said God was imaginary, that seems to be the bigoted and ignorant view.

I admit to ignorance, ie, if I don't know something
exists, then I won't claim that it exists. To know
the limits of one's knowledge is useful.

As for bigotry, how does that apply to not believing
in something that cannot be shown to exist? I say
that's rational...not bigoted.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

This swimmer is a man and cannot become a female no matter what is done surgically, all that will be done is making this man a castrated guy and destroy his body. He will always be a man but dress him up to resemble a female.

Again, you are analyzing this from a simplistic subjective perspective. Being castrated is different from changing sex and gender. There are myriad facets both biologically (hormonal, gonadal, genetic, neurological), sociologically, and psychologically that play into these concepts.

 

[ElishaElijah]

As for bigotry, how does that apply to not believing
in something that cannot be shown to exist? I say
that's rational...not bigoted.

This is the bigoted comment:
And gods will always be imaginary, but that's not stopping you from assuming they're real in spite all evidence to the contrary.
God’s response in His Word to these comments are this:
“The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge, Who eat up my people as they eat bread, And do not call on the Lord? There they are in great fear, For God is with the generation of the righteous. You shame the counsel of the poor, But the Lord is his refuge.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭14:1-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
People shouldn’t be quick to dismiss God, take for granted what He’s done and provided for us, assume He doesn’t exist and disrespect Him. Then when He responds to ignorant comments get offended with His answer.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is the bigoted comment:
And gods will always be imaginary, but that's not stopping you from assuming they're real in spite all evidence to the contrary.
God’s response in His Word to these comments are this:
“The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge, Who eat up my people as they eat bread, And do not call on the Lord? There they are in great fear, For God is with the generation of the righteous. You shame the counsel of the poor, But the Lord is his refuge.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭14:1-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
People shouldn’t be quick to dismiss God, take for granted what He’s done and provided for us, assume He doesn’t exist and disrespect Him. Then when He responds to ignorant comments get offended with His answer.

Who made the supposedly bigoted comment?
It seems that you're trying to deflect from the bigoted
claims made in the Bible by accusing someone else
of bigotry.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Again, you are analyzing this from a simplistic subjective perspective. Being castrated is different from changing sex and gender. There are myriad facets both biologically (hormonal, gonadal, genetic, neurological), sociologically, and psychologically that play into these concepts.

That would be for another discussion other than this thread where men are competing in female sports.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Who made the supposedly bigoted comment?
It seems that you're trying to deflect from the bigoted
claims made in the Bible by accusing someone else
of bigotry.

@Kooky made the referenced comment and how is it a deflection? His comment is a bigoted comment not God’s response. You jumped in the conversation and Psalm 14 is not a bigoted psalm, but God’s view of a person who says He doesn’t exist.

bigot
bĭg′ət
noun

1. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

 

[Kooky]

bigot
bĭg′ət
noun

1. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Such as, for example, someone who is intolerant of transgender people, and considers them delusional.

 

[Revoltingest]

@Kooky made the referenced comment and how is it a deflection?

He is one person, so his claims are irrelevant to me.
The Bible quote you showed applied to all of us heathens.
The bigotry arises in the Bible's labeling all of us as fools
who do nothing good. It ignores individual variation to
demonize us without exception. This is dangerous due
to the potential to inspire unwarranted hatred.

I make no such kind of claims about believers. I see that
some are good...some are bad...& some are complicated.
I see people as individuals.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Such as, for example, someone who is intolerant of transgender people, and considers them delusional.

Or is it only "bigotry" when your particular brand of Christianity is being targeted, hm?

By intolerant if you mean a man doesn’t belong in female sports or in female locker rooms and bathrooms then yes I’m intolerant of that and other inappropriate behavior. But that make you intolerant of all female sports, fair play and protection of women and girls.

 

[ElishaElijah]

He is one person, so his claims are irrelevant to me.
The Bible quote you showed applied to all of us heathens.

The bigoted comment from anyone who says that God is imaginary and make believe is to everyone who believes in God and has a relationship with Him.
His response to that is this:
“The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge, Who eat up my people as they eat bread, And do not call on the Lord? There they are in great fear, For God is with the generation of the righteous. You shame the counsel of the poor, But the Lord is his refuge.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭14:1-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
Sorry you don’t like the answer, the original bigoted comment shouldn’t have been made.

 

[Revoltingest]

The bigoted comment from anyone who says that God is imaginary and make believe...

I don't find that bigoted.
It still seems deflection from the issue of the Bible's bigotry.
To believe that God is imaginary doesn't say whether an
individual believer is a fool or not. But the Bible does say
that all of us atheists are fools who do nothing good.
That is heinous & hateful.

 

[Aštra’el]

@Revoltingest

Everybody knows the truth but few are willing to admit it. Atheists are incapable of good. It’s not bigotry it’s the truth.

I’ve never seen the atheist genuinely help someone or do anything out of the kindness of their heart. Ever since they emerged from the caves deep within the earth, their kind only hates life, attacks other people, and are cruel towards animals. Even the ones who can walk in the sunlight never smile, and they only laugh when someone they oppress has the coronavirus.

They are truly beyond all help.

 

[Revoltingest]

@Revoltingest

Everybody knows the truth but few are willing to admit it. Atheists are incapable of good. It’s not bigotry it’s the truth.

I’ve never seen the atheist genuinely help someone or do anything out of the kindness of their heart. Ever since they emerged from the caves deep within the earth, their kind only hates life, attacks other people, and are cruel towards animals. Even the ones who can walk in the sunlight never smile, and they only laugh when someone they oppress has the coronavirus.

They are truly beyond all help.

 

[ElishaElijah]

He is one person, so his claims are irrelevant to me.
The Bible quote you showed applied to all of us heathens.
The bigotry arises in the Bible's labeling all of us as fools
who do nothing good. It ignores individual variation to
demonize us without exception. This is dangerous due
to the potential to inspire unwarranted hatred.

I make no such kind of claims about believers. I see that
some are good...some are bad...& some are complicated.
I see people as individuals.

I don’t see Psalm 14 as promoting hatred or saying anything about individual variation. Believers don’t hate anyone and the Bible says if we do we aren’t really believers.
“He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.”
‭‭I John‬ ‭2:9-11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
Also, I don’t lump everyone into the same mold whether believer or unbeliever. I don’t know anyone’s motives for what they do unless they tell me or God shows me. I’m not the Judge but God is and He knows everyone’s motives for what they do. He is the only one who can judge whether anyone’s works are good or not and in Psalm 14 that’s is Word on the person who says in his heart “there is no God”.
Do you allow yourself to hate anyone?
Do you label Christians or look at each individual?

 

[Revoltingest]

I don’t see Psalm 14 as promoting hatred or saying anything about individual variation.

The problem is that the biblical passages demonizes
non-believers without exception. This is bigotry.

Believers don’t hate anyone....

This is not true of all believers.

....and the Bible says if we do we aren’t really believers.

As explained to me by many Christians...
- Christians aren't perfect. They many commit any sin.
- They're still Christians because they've accepted Jesus
as their lord & savior.

Also, I don’t lump everyone into the same mold whether believer or unbeliever.

The Bible does, according to your supplied text.

Do you allow yourself to hate anyone?

I feel hatred towards some, but this is caused
by their doing great evil, eg, assaulting another.

Do you label Christians or look at each individual?

As I already said, I treat believers as individuals.
"Believers" would indeed include Christians.

 

[Kooky]

@Revoltingest

Everybody knows the truth but few are willing to admit it. Atheists are incapable of good. It’s not bigotry it’s the truth.

I’ve never seen the atheist genuinely help someone or do anything out of the kindness of their heart. Ever since they emerged from the caves deep within the earth, their kind only hates life, attacks other people, and are cruel towards animals. Even the ones who can walk in the sunlight never smile, and they only laugh when someone they oppress has the coronavirus.

They are truly beyond all help.

Also, they steal people's babies and eat them, and/or sacrifice them to their Lord Satan, whom they summon by engaging in a popular demon summoning ritual called "Dungeons & Dragons".

Another thing atheists do constantly is to engage in communism, which is a political activity aimed squarely at destroying America, specifically everything American Christians consider holy and sacred.