US and UK carry out airstrikes against Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Hamas makes effective use of human shields,

That's a funny way of saying "the IDF doesn't care about avoiding civilian casualties."

and lies (which some people seem all-too-eager to take at face value).

The link was to Oxfam. Do you think they're lying?

And UNHCR?

And Doctors Without Borders?

And all the other NGOs independently coming up with very similar death toll estimates?

 

[Laniakea]

More nonsense. Trump is the one that blames everyone else. Biden only blame Trump for what he clearly did wrong.

Now you're projecting again.

 

[Laniakea]

That's a funny way of saying "the IDF doesn't care about avoiding civilian casualties."



The link was to Oxfam. Do you think they're lying?

And UNHCR?

And Doctors Without Borders?

And all the other NGOs independently coming up with very similar death toll estimates?

Why?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Now you're projecting again.

LMAO, try again.

 

[Laniakea]

LMAO, try again.

Ok.
You're projecting again.
Did you hear it that time?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok.
You're projecting again.
Did you hear it that time?

Yes, and I am still laughing. You do not even know what that means. That is why I am laughing so much.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, as in supporting them, accepting whatever they say as truth--regardless of what they've shown themselves to be.

That tends t8 get thrown at people who aren't pro-Hamas but anti-killing civilians. Doesn't matter if its Israel or Hamas, both are savage monsters for doing it.

 

[Bthoth]

Ok.
You're projecting again.
Did you hear it that time?

Is that your defense, 'You're projecting"?

The apartheid created by israel is the problem, not everyone else.

 

[Laniakea]

Yes, and I am still laughing. You do not even know what that means. That is why I am laughing so much.

I aim to please.

 

[Laniakea]

Is that your defense, 'You're projecting"?

The apartheid created by israel is the problem, not everyone else.

Sure. Those who slaughter 1,200 Israeli civilians aren't the problem, nor is the terrorist organization they serve, nor are the weapons they used, nor are the rockets they continue firing into Israeli population centers. It's always the "little guy". Hey, why not even blame the hostages that are still being held by Hamas. I'm sure you could come up with a way to blame them for everything going on as well. After all, the war would end if Hamas would stop firing rockets and release the hostages, so why not say that the hostages are causing the problem? Don't worry, you won't surprise me.

 

[Bthoth]

Sure. Those who slaughter 1,200 Israeli civilians aren't the problem, nor is the terrorist organization they serve, nor are the weapons they used, nor are the rockets they continue firing into Israeli population centers. It's always the "little guy". Hey, why not even blame the hostages that are still being held by Hamas. I'm sure you could come up with a way to blame them for everything going on as well. After all, the war would end if Hamas would stop firing rockets and release the hostages, so why not say that the hostages are causing the problem? Don't worry, you won't surprise me.

Blame? Is that your requirement whom to blame?

You will need to go back further than 10/7.

 

[metis]

You want US to go to war with iran, right?

No.

 

[Bthoth]

No.

Nice succinct answer.

Thank you!

 

[Laniakea]

Blame? Is that your requirement whom to blame?

You will need to go back further than 10/7.

I keep forgetting that you blow off Oct. 7th events as irrelevant to anything. Fortunately though, Israel realized it was time to eliminate the threat they've been dealing with for far too long.
Maybe Hamas will become wise and release the more than 150 hostages they're keeping prisoner. Oh yeah, and stop firing missiles into Israel.

 

[Bthoth]

I keep forgetting that you blow off Oct. 7th events as irrelevant to anything.

Looks like you will tell yourself anything, if writing that.

Fortunately though, Israel realized it was time to eliminate the threat they've been dealing with for far too long.

israel created the problem with apartheid and oppression of the last half century.

Apparently illegal occupation and idolatry for the mount is just rational behavior to you.

Maybe Hamas will become wise and release the more than 150 hostages they're keeping prisoner. Oh yeah, and stop firing missiles into Israel.

I would have hoped that the hostages were already released and oh yea take down the fencing throughout palestine.

 

[Laniakea]

Looks like you will tell yourself anything, if writing that.

israel created the problem with apartheid and oppression of the last half century.

Apparently illegal occupation and idolatry for the mount is just rational behavior to you.

I would have hoped that the hostages were already released and oh yea take down the fencing throughout palestine.

I notice that you're still attempting to justify Hamas war-crimes.
And no, the hostages haven't been released. There are around 160 being held, including 6 American citizens: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/28/1215353901/hostages-hamas-israel-gaza-palestinian-prisoners

 

[Bthoth]

I notice that you're still attempting to justify Hamas war-crimes.

Not even close, but you are attempting to insult me.

Nothing justifies what HAMAS did, just like nothing justifies apartheid and the pursuit of that mount.

And no, the hostages haven't been released. There are around 160 being held, including 6 American citizens: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/28/1215353901/hostages-hamas-israel-gaza-palestinian-prisoners

Sad but that does not substantiate israelis destroying gaza and the 10's of thousands of civilians killed.

All they are doing is creating more HAMAS (resistance). There is no capitulating to apartheid.

 

[Laniakea]

Not even close, but you are attempting to insult me.

Nothing justifies what HAMAS did, just like nothing justifies apartheid and the pursuit of that mount.

Glad you can admit Hamas was wrong, but disappointed that you felt the need to quickly draw attention away from them in order to blame others for what they did.

Sad but that does not substantiate israelis destroying gaza and the 10's of thousands of civilians killed.

All they are doing is creating more HAMAS (resistance). There is no capitulating to apartheid.

Those in Gaza want apartheid. Attacking and killing Israelis is not exactly a way of saying, "We want to be one with you in peace". Neither is the "From the River to the Sea" chant. Nor is firing rockets into Israel, or taking Israeli hostages.

 

[Bthoth]

Glad you can admit Hamas was wrong,

Not even a doubt.

but disappointed that you felt the need to quickly draw attention away from them in order to blame others for what they did.

Not blaming, understanding how it is possible.

that's the difference of you and I on the topic, decades of observation.

Those in Gaza want apartheid.

Would you as a human being? Stop to consider if you were of palestine before the visitors.

Attacking and killing Israelis is not exactly a way of saying, "We want to be one with you in peace". Neither is the "From the River to the Sea" chant.

I know.... it's weird, it's wrong on both sides.

Nor is firing rockets into Israel, or taking Israeli hostages.

Most are plumbing pipes filled with whatever they can find as a propellant.

no guidance, not war heads and about 30% dont even make it over the fences.

I understand the media angles and why items are claimed. As if the saveges are inhumane and their god tells them to kill.

i know the variety of opinions

 

[Laniakea]

Not even a doubt.
Not blaming, understanding how it is possible.

Understanding without condemning is condoning.

Would you as a human being? Stop to consider if you were of palestine before the visitors.

There was no such thing as "palestine", and the "visitors" were the original owners of the land. The UN even confirmed it to be theirs.[/QUOTE]

Most are plumbing pipes filled with whatever they can find as a propellant.

no guidance, not war heads and about 30% dont even make it over the fences.

What they're made of hardly matters. Although those plumbing pipes used to be the Gazans' infrastructure to have drinking water. But instead of blaming Hamas for no drinking water, make Israel the scapegoat instead.