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US and UK carry out airstrikes against Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
One oil expert said gas prices in the U.S. could go as high as $17 per gallon if the Red Sea would be blocked.
That is baiting the Us constituents with a fear factor.

It sounds like something a russian propaganda machine would publish.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is baiting the Us constituents with a fear factor.

It sounds like something a russian propaganda machine would publish.



I lived through one of those times, in that case because of an oil embargo, and I saw what can and did happen. Maybe when you get older, you'll maybe realize how fragile the world's oil system really is.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
I lived through one of those times, in that case because of an oil embargo, and I saw what can and did happen. Maybe when you get older, you'll maybe realize how fragile the world's oil system really is.
Business rules the oil system and a simple misinformation could be used to increase gas pricing. But that straight is not that important to US nor oil futures.

i think today we are at about $75 a barrel which is about what is was when gas cost about $1 a gallon here in the US. That business is so corrupt that is should be decentralized from big corporations and the political manipulation.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I lived through one of those times, in that case because of an oil embargo, and I saw what can and did happen. Maybe when you get older, you'll maybe realize how fragile the world's oil system really is.
I lived thru those same times, & we never saw
the kind of price inflation claimed. We actually
had a worse problem, ie, government limited
the price, thereby implementing shortages.
 

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
That's valuable feedback. Thanks. In truth, geopolitics is rarely entirely defensive when the United States is concerned. But the question still stands. Would you have the U. S. abandon the Red Sea shipping lanes to Houthi terrorist attacks?
I'm afraid I can only provide a somewhat diplomatic/evasive reply to this.

The withdraw of Imperialists from the region would definitely lead to considerable hardship initially in the Imperialist countries, Israel as their outpost in the ME and as well as on the exploited on the periphery. It's not a task that anyone who's responsibility it was to lead the UK/US states would ever willingly undertake. That said, this hardship could also be used to justify almost any maintenance of the Imperialism system.

My political interests and advocacy is more concerned with opposing the Imperialist system (Lenin's analysis) rather than advocating for a given foreign policy the Imperialist powers would use to manage their domination of the third world.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Business rules the oil system and a simple misinformation could be used to increase gas pricing. But that straight is not that important to US nor oil futures.

i think today we are at about $75 a barrel which is about what is was when gas cost about $1 a gallon here in the US. That business is so corrupt that is should be decentralized from big corporations and the political manipulation.

I pay attention to the experts, but I don't take just one opinion.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
My political interests and advocacy is more concerned with opposing the Imperialist system (Lenin's analysis) rather than advocating for a given foreign policy the Imperialist powers would use to manage their domination of the third world.
I understand. What I don't understand is a failure to oppose Iran's theocracy or its proxies, but that's a different issue. Parenthetically,

I suspect that the main victims of an U.S. isolationist policy vis-a-vis Red Sea shipping would be Egypt (and possibly Saudi Arabia and the UAE). I also suspect that one of the benefactors could well be Donald Trump and American neofascism. It's been years since I seriously studied Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky, but I don'y imagine any of them being indifferent to terrorist-free shipping lanes.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
It's a thoughtful reply, but I don't agree with labeling it as an entirely defensive operation.

If any country that the Western imperialists had put under blockade had responded with airstrikes, I don't think for a moment that the international community would see it as an act of defense and not of aggression. Given that the West supported the blockade against Yemen, it's quite clear to me that it is not a commitment of America or the Brits to 'the free flow of international commerce', but a commitment to the free flow of their commerce.

Whose free commerce is achieved by firing ballistic missiles and drones at cargo ships?
 

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
What I don't understand is a failure to oppose Iran's theocracy or its proxies, but that's a different issue.
I oppose political Islam outright - due to my values, political opinions and also because I could not visit countries like Iran without immediate threat to my safety.

That said, I do think that the way that the United States has acted towards Persia and neighbouring countries could be fairly classified as terrorism as the Iranian government has.

A formative experience in Lenin's personal development was the execution of his older brother due to his involvement with the Narodniks. I don't believe that he would have rallied behind the Russian governments attempts to stomp terrorism out. His writings on terrorism were to discourage adventurism and bolster the revolutionary cause, rather than applauding the Russian government's counter-terrorism.

As for your view that it would benefit Trump and his ilk, I don't understand your reasons for drawing that conclusion, but I have no opinions one way or the other.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
I pay attention to the experts, but I don't take just one opinion.
Great. I am quite the same. News reports are not expert opinion but I get it. You want US to go to war with iran, right?

Call the big bibi nutlessyahoo and tell him that he must fight iran and the houthis, to make sure our (US) gas prices stay down.
 
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