US blew up Russian gas pipelines?

[Revoltingest]

Not suggested in the OP

Just Biden his own words

OK.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I strongly suspect that Putin instigated it.

I'm trying to put together in my mind how that makes sense, were I putin, with his motivations. Were I him, I'd keep that infrastructure there, because once it does get cold, you get europe to beg, and pay.

 

[Estro Felino]

Rather than watching both videos in their entirety,
could you say at which times he threatens to blow
up a pipeline?

I am a jurist. If someone makes a public statement, saying that he will terminate the life of a person, in one way or another, and some time later this person is found killed, what shall I think?
You tell me.


Obviously I do know how biased and unjust penal procedure in Common law systems is,...but the fact happened in Europe. We think differently here.

 

[Estro Felino]

I strongly suspect that Putin instigated it.
You know....
- Invading Ukraine.
- Cutting off fuel to Europe.
- Earning enmity from a great many countries.

I don't know who did it.
But I give Putin credit for its happening.

So in your opinion, Putin is disposed to destroy his own jewel, Nordstream pipeline, and lose billions dollars GDP, for what?
Tell me.
Isn't that one of those conspiracy theories you always talk about?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

No one in his right mind would imagine the USA would unilaterally destroy these gas lines which have been so important to the EU in the past. To do that would wreck the NATO alliance overnight.

I'm not saying we did, but do you agree that what biden and nuland said was actually very sloppy? They seemed to say, with great ambiguity, that they wanted to stop the pipeline, if an invasion occurred. I don't think those were the right things to really say. And you also say this is not a big deal in some way, but from what I can tell at the moment, this might be pretty significant environmentally?

 

[Estro Felino]

I'm trying to put together in my mind how that makes sense, were I putin, with his motivations. Were I him, I'd keep that infrastructure there, because once it does get cold, you get europe to beg, and pay.

...and gain billions of dollars (which he desperately needs).

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm trying to put together in my mind how that makes sense, were I putin, with his motivations. Were I him, I'd keep that infrastructure there, because once it does get cold, you get europe to beg, and pay.

I'm not saying that Putin ordered its demolition.
But I credit him for instigating it.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

...and gain billions of dollars (which he desperately needs).

Does he want money, or does he, moreso, like to have power over people, is my question. Destroying the infrastructure destroys a possible avenue of power that he could have over others.

 

[Revoltingest]

I am a jurist. If someone makes a public statement, saying that he will terminate the life of a person, in one way or another, and some time later this person is found killed, what shall I think?
You tell me.

At which point in which video did he
threaten to blow up the pipeline?

Obviously I do know how biased and unjust penal procedure in Common law systems is,...but the fact happened in Europe. We think differently here.

Whuh?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I'm not saying that Putin ordered its demolition.
But I credit him for instigating it.

He very well could have. He's a pretty poor military strategist, we all can see that

 

[Revoltingest]

So in your opinion, Putin is disposed to destroy his own jewel...

As I repeatedly said, I credit him with "instigating"
its demolition....not personally pushing the button.
His heinous acts this year very likely inspired the
explosion.
Tis odd that this is such a difficult idea to convey.

 

[Estro Felino]

At which point in which video did he
threaten to blow up the pipeline?

Whuh?

He didn't use those words. Now that I have answered your question, may I have my question answered, sir?
Thank you.
Question
I am a jurist. If someone makes a public statement, saying that he will terminate the life of a person, in one way or another, and some time later this person is found killed, what shall I think?
You tell me.

 

[Estro Felino]

As I repeatedly said, I credit him with "instigating"
its demolition....not personally pushing the button.
His heinous acts this year very likely inspired the
explosion.
Tis odd that this is such a difficult idea to convey.

And who had the motive to do such a thing?
And above all the means.

 

[F1fan]

Before going into News
Tucker applied for CIA

And he got into neither. Seems a person needs integrity, but FOX took him.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I'm not saying that Putin ordered its demolition.
But I credit him for instigating it.

I agree in that his decisions have seemed to be at the root of a lot of suffering this year

 

[Revoltingest]

He very well could have. He's a pretty poor military strategist, we all can see that

I think he earned the enmity more by his evil
assault on Ukraine than by his incompetence.

 

[Revoltingest]

He didn't use those words.

Ah hah!
IOW, he never said what's claimed.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Of course. Lorena Bobbit could have said in court: my husband cut his thingy off...in order to accuse me.

It makes sense, right?
The logic here is: self-harm in order to accuse the other party, right?

Well, I'm sure it's happened a couple times in history. Deceit exists, but if it was self-harm, maybe it was too much self-harm. I guess I don't know, I don't have an economics degree

 

[Revoltingest]

And who had the motive to do such a thing?
And above all the means.

Good question.
But I advise against leaping to an answer
based upon whom one sides with or against.

 

[Heyo]

I'm not saying that Putin ordered its demolition.
But I credit him for instigating it.

"Now look at what you made me do."