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US blew up Russian gas pipelines?

stvdv

Veteran Member
I would agree with him that the leak is an environmental disaster
Compared to all other environmental disaster this might be not too big a deal. IF it is AND US/Europe has a hand in it THEN that would tell a lot about our leaders...super hypocrites

But his language is very biased and his conclusions don't necessarily follow from the evidence.
I got the feeling that he did not make conclusions, just aired some ideas. He even phrased it that way a few times

I don't disagree that the US may have done it, but I am not going to bet on that conclusion from his video
Neither did Tucker, nor do I. Though if 3 important Americans already promised this would be done by the US (+EU), then I take that as evidence, not to be dismissed

There are other possibilities that are just as likely or more so.
IMO, not as likely, but there are other possibilities indeed
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I have never seen so much wickedness in one video.
The POTUS treating Germany as an irrelevant colony.
"we will terminate Nordstream pipeline, regardless of Germany's will".
Even if the excellent journalist (God bless her) told him: "But it's Germany's pipeline, it is not yours, Biden!!!".
Yes. Strange other RF'ers didn't catch that part.
They are too busy bashing Tucker probably
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some elites who are not European, yet they come to Europe 24 / 7 to meddle and to interfere.
Examples?
I doubt your claim because I see no real threat
outside of Russia to swoop in & commandeer
resources. Nay, the threat to Russia has come
from Putin & cronies, who stole resources as
the USSR dissolved.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I strongly suspect that Putin instigated it.
You know....
- Invading Ukraine.
- Cutting off fuel to Europe.
- Earning enmity from a great many countries.

I don't know who did it.
But I give Putin credit for its happening.
Maybe, maybe not.

Don't underestimate the US and the EU in messing and playing power and control games.
They also have their spies, double agent spies, triple agent spies, counterintelligence or whatever
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Examples?
I doubt your claim because I see no real threat
outside of Russia to swoop in & commandeer
resources. Nay, the threat to Russia has come
from Putin & cronies, who stole resources as
the USSR dissolved.

The so called resources have been nationalized. They belong to the Russian State.
There will be hundreds of presidents after Putin. The raw materials will remain owned by the Russian State.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Maybe, maybe not.

Don't underestimate the US and the EU in messing and playing power and control games.
They also have their spies, double agent spies, triple agent spies, counterintelligence or whatever
And the Jews...don't forget the Jews.
And the Illuminati, and....all the others
who are capable of bombing the pipeline.
But I'll stick with giving Putin the ultimate
responsibility for it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The so called resources have been nationalized. They belong to the Russian State.
There will be hundreds of presidents after Putin. The raw materials will remain owned by the Russian State.
So where's the external threat by the "elites"
to take these resources from Russia?
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I want to tell you an anecdote.
I was almost always late when I was in junior high school.
Once I arrived late in the classroom as usual, and I saw that a mug full of pencils (which was on the teacher's desk) had fallen onto the ground and all the pencils were on the ground.
I saw that and I was shocked. At that moment the teacher entered the classroom, saw the mug and the pencil and said: "who did this?".
All of a sudden the bully of the classroom told the teacher that it was me. That I had dropped the mug.

In that moment I figured out who had done that.

So...in this case too... I know who did this.
Nice anecdote, with a lot of truth in it
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
UN Security Council to meet Friday on damage to Nord Stream gas pipelines

The United Nations Security Council will convene on Friday at the request of Russia to discuss damage to two Russian gas pipelines to Europe that has caused gas to spew into the Baltic Sea.

The French U.N. mission, which holds the presidency of the 15-member council for September, said the meeting would address the Nord Stream pipelines that Russia and European partners spent billions of dollars building.

Gas leaks as a result of suspected sabotage discovered on the two pipelines on Tuesday have roiled energy markets and heightened security concerns.

Suspected explosions tore through the undersea pipelines on Tuesday. The Nord Stream 1 pipeline, once the main route for Russian gas to Germany, was already shut but cannot now be easily reopened. The new Nord Stream 2 pipeline had yet to enter commercial operations.
Thank you for sharing this interesting information
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I want to tell you an anecdote.
I was almost always late when I was in junior high school.
Once I arrived late in the classroom as usual, and I saw that a mug full of pencils (which was on the teacher's desk) had fallen onto the ground and all the pencils were on the ground.
I saw that and I was shocked. At that moment the teacher entered the classroom, saw the mug and the pencil and said: "who did this?".
All of a sudden the bully of the classroom told the teacher that it was me. That I had dropped the mug.

In that moment I figured out who had done that.

So...in this case too... I know who did this.
Are you admitting to blowing up the pipeline?
 
Yep.
But I've never lost a bet when it came to accusing the US of an international, nefarious act. It's what they do.

People said that in the run up to the Ukraine invasion: it's just US scaremongering. Putin won't invade...

"Pipelines" was also the supposed reason for US involvement in Kosovo, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, and with hindsight there were no pipelines, so forgive me if I'm sceptical of yet another spin on the "pipelines" trope.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Apply economic pressure to Russia.
You know....to discourage violent conquest.

Is Germany an American colony who must obey to Washington DC?
If the Federal Republic of Germany wants to do that, they will do it without any foreign interference.

But if you want to claim Germany and Italy are US colonies, say it.
 
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