Vaccine experience and poll

[Leahpolitan_icecream]

No particular reason. I don’t get flu or pneumonia shots either. I haven’t had as much as a sneeze or runny nose in over two years. I don’t hold with the idea that I could be endangering others. I don’t feel the need to poke the bear, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Thank you for answering, you are a strong person

 

[Wandering Monk]

Exactly, and we have never seen it again.

Thank you for the information

D3 is an immunomodulator. It regulates the bodies immune response to infection. Over 40% of Americans are vitamin D deficient. Deficiency can result in a cytokine storm response to Covid. This storm has killed many people because the bodies immune response was not well regulated.

BUT:

There is some point at which your immune system cannot be improved any more (its nominal state) so there is a practical limit to what level you can improve it.

Also, it is possible to get vitamin D poisoning, so don't over do it. Vitamin D toxicity: What if you get too much?.

 

[metis]

ver 40% of Americans are vitamin D deficient. Deficiency can result in a cytokine storm response to Covid.

Ya, as I have to take 5000 mg per day plus eat at least one fatty fish meal per week, plus I get outside for at least one hour 6 days a week. I used to be WAY below the minimum but now are in the middle.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Religious exemptions on such matters have historically not been recognized. The reality is that there is no religion or Christian denomination that are officially anti-vacers, as even JW's and the Amish get the vaccine.

Why would there be such a thing in things like JW and blood donation if religion takes no part in this?

Not likely, as seatbelts save lives of other passengers as well, plus the Constitution has it that government can "promote the general welfare" even if we don't like it one iota. However, there are limitations.

The argument is the driver putting a person in danger because he's not wearing a seatbelt. That's not true. The passenger wearing no seatbelt doesnt put other drivers in danger. Seatbelts are irrelevant when talking about who puts who in danger.

You can use drunk driving but not all drivers drive drunk despite passengers claim they are in danger of a person who has the potential to drive drunk.

 

[England my lionheart]

Here in the States, the average person is vaccinated against 10 possible diseases prior to even going into elementary school. This is why the hype against the covid vaccines frankly is just nuts. Yes, some people may be wise not getting vaccinated for covid, but they should take such advice from their doctor, not politicians on either side of the aisle.

Exactly.

 

[metis]

Why would there be such a thing in things like JW and blood donation if religion takes no part in this?

Because some grasp at straws in order to avoid the vaccine. The reality is that the courts should ignore that sham but recognize legit health concerns per their doctor.

The argument is the driver putting a person in danger because he's not wearing a seatbelt. That's not true. The passenger wearing no seatbelt doesnt put other drivers in danger. Seatbelts are irrelevant when talking about who puts who in danger.

False, as bodies bouncing around inside the vehicle in a collision puts others at risk. Haven't you ever seen these safety tests with dummies?

 

[Jainarayan]

Thank you for answering, you are a strong person

If I’m pushed to the wall and have no options, like a job mandate, and if I feel the job is worth it, I’ll do it.

 

[Jainarayan]

Here in the States, the average person is vaccinated against 10 possible diseases prior to even going into elementary school.

Not back in the 60s and 70s. We had vax for measles, smallpox and polio. There was no MMR, chickenpox, HPV, meningitis. I don’t remember a single classmate or friend getting anything other than the mumps, chickenpox or German measles, which we all survived. I had the mumps very early, and escaped the chickenpox. Where did all these other vaccinations come from when generations of us survived them unscathed?

 

[metis]

Not back in the 60s and 70s. We had vax for measles, smallpox and polio. There was no MMR, chickenpox, HPV, meningitis. I don’t remember a single classmate or friend getting anything other than the mumps, chickenpox or German measles, which we all survived. I had the mumps very early, and escaped the chickenpox. Where did all these other vaccinations come from when generations of us survived them unscathed?

Diphtheria and tetanus were standard to be given, and I had an aunt and uncle who died from each prior to the vaccines that covered both. IOW. I didn't invent the 10 as I got that from a virologist here in the States that was being interviewed on the news.

And to your last point, our life expectancy is now much higher than it was a century ago, for example. Based on evidence, during the mid-1800's, the life expectancy was roughly 45 here in the States.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Two shots and a booster of Pfizer. Sore arm for each and where painkillers dealt with such for day or so. No reason not to have the vaccine when the dangers from the virus are far greater, and where even those younger than myself (and probably healthier) have sadly died.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Exactly. I had to have a negative test to go to a concert the other week and I passed that. I don't have it. The paranoia is ridiculous.

Asymptomatic transmission happens. It's quite reasonable to test people before entry into a crowded event to make sure no one is carrying the virus. It's not an assumption that the person being tested has the virus; it's a recognition of the possibility that they do. That makes sense for a contagious disease.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Ehhh... yep! As will be/is the brow beating. My good friend and his wife are 65+ year old snowbirds with a condo in Floriduh. He told me the only reason he was wearing a mask anymore (the mandates had been lifted) was because the other oldsters were going on and on about wearing masks. So he caved because he didn’t want to hear it. This a man who was known for his barroom brawls in his younger days. Oh how the mighty fall.

I see nothing wrong with wearing a mask, mandate or not. Even without a mandate, wearing one is a fairly simple measure that reduces the possibility of getting infected or infecting someone else.

If we stop wearing masks and also avoid vaccines, I think we'll be living as if there were no pandemic at all. That sounds quite dangerous.

 

[Valjean]

Here in the States, the average person is vaccinated against 10 possible diseases prior to even going into elementary school. This is why the hype against the covid vaccines frankly is just nuts. Yes, some people may be wise not getting vaccinated for covid, but they should take such advice from their doctor, not politicians on either side of the aisle.

Moreover, there are different types of vaccines, and the types of vaccines mandated for children are more dangerous than the new, mRNA vaccine I got for covid.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I got it many times.

Two doses back in April and May respectively and my booster last Friday. All Moderna.

Also, I haven't checked yet this morning, but I haven't died from it.

 

[metis]

Moreover, there are different types of vaccines, and the types of vaccines mandated for children are more dangerous than the new, mRNA vaccine I got for covid.

I haven't read that as of yet, but can you provide a link?

I have a subscription to Scientific American, but I'm over a month behind will so much with us that's been going on in our family. Thus, I haven't seen any of the data so far on the children's vaccines.

 

[Jainarayan]

And to your last point, our life expectancy is now much higher than it was a century ago, for example. Based on evidence, during the mid-1800's, the life expectancy was roughly 45 here in the States.

I’m talking about the 60s and 70s, not the 1800s. I’m talking about those of us born in the late 50s and are still alive, not having contracted any of the illnesses that vaccinations are advertised for today.

 

[Jainarayan]

I see nothing wrong with wearing a mask, mandate or not. Even without a mandate, wearing one is a fairly simple measure that reduces the possibility of getting infected or infecting someone else.

If we stop wearing masks and also avoid vaccines, I think we'll be living as if there were no pandemic at all. That sounds quite dangerous.

As I said, masks are not the evil people have protested against. People are wearing them voluntarily. I noticed for years that older people of Asian descent have worn masks. I don’t know the reason but it’s something they feel works for some reason.

 

[metis]

I’m talking about the 60s and 70s, not the 1800s. I’m talking about those of us born in the late 50s and are still alive, not having contracted any of the illnesses that vaccinations are advertised for today.

I understand, but please do remember what was done to make your and my life safter whereas those ten that we all had vaccines for may have made it possible for us to get to our "ripe" age [I'm 76].

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It would be very rare for someone in the UK not to know someone that has died from Covid, I knew two so far.
I have lost count of those that have had it.

I will take what ever vaccinations are on offer. Though I know a person who died from a blood clot, before they knew that clots could be could be a problem. It is very much rarer now.

 

[metis]

It would be very rare for someone in the UK not to know someone that has died from Covid, I knew two so far.
I have lost count of those that have had it.

I will take what ever vaccinations are on offer. Though I know a person who died from a blood clot, before they knew that clots could be could be a problem. It is very much rarer now.

Same in my area as one of our cousins died from it; a good friend said he wished he was dead he was in such bad shape; our neighbors on either side of us got it and one has had a personality change due to covid; and there's numerous more as we got hit hard and early in 2020 here in the Detroit area.

If one dies from covid, it's generally by gradual suffocation that could take days to weeks to months. I know I will die some day from something, but gradually dying from suffocation is not the way I want to go.

IOW, unless one's doctor tells them otherwise, get the damn vaccine!!!