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Vance opines on a grim 'Fact of Life' in the wake of the Georgia shootings

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Depends on the character and fortitude of the person.
No it doesn't.
A mass shooting is essentially a combat situation.
Yep.

So what affect do you think continual mass shootings is going to have (or is having) on the populaton? You've written off young adults as "psychopaths," correct? They weren't born that way, so how do you think they got this way? Could it maybe, possibly have something to do with the continuous and ongoing number of mass shootings plaguing your country and the society such events produce?
Something to think about.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No it doesn't.

Yep.

So what affect do you think continual mass shootings is going to have (or is having) on the populaton? You've written off young adults as "psychopaths," correct? They weren't born that way, so how do you think they got this way? Could it maybe, possibly have something to do with the continuous and ongoing number of mass shootings plaguing your country and the society such events produce?
Something to think about.
Yes it does and of course it's the psychopath that is doing it. Either born or raised I would say it's prudent to start investigating the recent surge in the numbers to get to the bottom of things.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Yes it does and of course it's the psychopath that is doing it. Either born or raised I would say it's prudent to start investigating the recent surge in the numbers to get to the bottom of things.
No. "Character" and "fortitude" have nothing to do how one's brain and body react to trauma.

Psychopaths are made. Nobody is born a psychopath. There aren't little psychopath babies running around.
My point was that mass shootings are having a societal effect. You can't have a bunch of people continually experiencing such high levels of trauma without some sort of consequences. So the people you write off as mentally disturbed or whatever, got that way somehow. I'm suggesting that mass shootings are contributing to the mental health problem in your country.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. "Character" and "fortitude" have nothing to do how one's brain and body react to trauma.

Psychopaths are made. Nobody is born a psychopath. There aren't little psychopath babies running around.
My point was that mass shootings are having a societal effect. You can't have a bunch of people continually experiencing such high levels of trauma without some sort of consequences. So the people you write off as mentally disturbed or whatever, got that way somehow. I'm suggesting that mass shootings are contributing to the mental health problem in your country.
According to Scientific American it's probably both. You have both born and made Psychopaths. Not all of them necessarily bad but clearly not good either.

 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Probably because the left is always blaming firearms when the real problem is something else.

I think you're old enough to acknowledge that these problems just didn't exist in the past, and firearms laws and regulations were even less oppressive then as opposed to today.

Hell back then you could have your rifles on a gun rack in the window of your pickup truck in the school parking lot without any worries or care.

No the guns were never the problem. Something else is.


Of course it’s the firearms. Every week in the USA, someone shoots up a school, or goes on an armed rampage in some other public place. This only happens in America. And it’s not because Americans are more inherently violent than the rest of us. There are plenty of angry unstable individuals in every country in the world. Only in the USA do angry unstable individuals have easy access to firearms. Ffs, how can you miss what’s so damn obvious?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
No. "Character" and "fortitude" have nothing to do how one's brain and body react to trauma.

Psychopaths are made. Nobody is born a psychopath. There aren't little psychopath babies running around.
My point was that mass shootings are having a societal effect. You can't have a bunch of people continually experiencing such high levels of trauma without some sort of consequences. So the people you write off as mentally disturbed or whatever, got that way somehow. I'm suggesting that mass shootings are contributing to the mental health problem in your country.
Last year I believe roughly 1600 people between the ages of 1 to 17 were shot. As I have stated before, 1 is too many but still...it's not like we're living in daily fear of a school shooting. Or at least most of us aren't, though I'm sure some are. There are many graduating classes that are that big! Pretty sure my high school was that big. Anyway, I just want to point that out. Otherwise I agree with a lot of your post. You know what's interesting to me? That my brother and I were both raised in the same house by the same parents but he's mentally ill and I'm not. And honestly, I believe I was the more "abused" of us too, but maybe I wasn't, who knows?

As I've stated before, I recently hosted a friend of mine from Germany, who was very surprised that there weren't gunshots ringing in the streets (he was also really surprised at the low percentage of African Americans because based on media coverage and commercials, he thought that they made up at least 50 percent of the population, but I digress).

Anyway, I've brought this up several times, but it's never been addressed - oh well.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Last year I believe roughly 1600 people between the ages of 1 to 17 were shot. As I have stated before, 1 is too many but still...it's not like we're living in daily fear of a school shooting. Or at least most of us aren't, though I'm sure some are. There are many graduating classes that are that big! Pretty sure my high school was that big. Anyway, I just want to point that out. Otherwise I agree with a lot of your post. You know what's interesting to me? That my brother and I were both raised in the same house by the same parents but he's mentally ill and I'm not. And honestly, I believe I was the more "abused" of us too, but maybe I wasn't, who knows?

As I've stated before, I recently hosted a friend of mine from Germany, who was very surprised that there weren't gunshots ringing in the streets (he was also really surprised at the low percentage of African Americans because based on media coverage and commercials, he thought that they made up at least 50 percent of the population, but I digress).

Anyway, I've brought this up several times, but it's never been addressed - oh well.


When you factor in the sheer number of the population , it's pretty obvious how low these figures really are.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Last year I believe roughly 1600 people between the ages of 1 to 17 were shot. As I have stated before, 1 is too many but still...it's not like we're living in daily fear of a school shooting.

According to one site there were 2,959 reported rape incidents. Clearly, 1 is too many but still...it's not like we're living in daily fear of rape.

When you factor in the sheer number of the population , it's pretty obvious how low these figures really are.

When you factor in the sheer number of the population , it's pretty obvious how low these figures really are.

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So, now that we've convinced ourselves that the damn pinko liberals are overreacting, let's talk about something more relevant. Anything good on TV tonight?​

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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Probably because the left is always blaming firearms when the real problem is something else.

I think you're old enough to acknowledge that these problems just didn't exist in the past, and firearms laws and regulations were even less oppressive then as opposed to today.

Hell back then you could have your rifles on a gun rack in the window of your pickup truck in the school parking lot without any worries or care.

No the guns were never the problem. Something else is.
Okay, you've said this before --- so why do you think America raises more pschopaths or others more willing to kill than other nations? Surely that implies some sort of deeper national problem.
 
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