Shuddhasattva
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I'm a big believer in market solutions; vegetarianism would be best implemented by making meat substitutes identical or superior to meat products in texture/taste, at lower prices.
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Vegetarianism is one of the best things you can do for the enviroment
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Me Myself
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I would love that laws made meat eating illegal (or something the like. ) on a future that I doubt is soon to come.
I mean if only because of the environment, they should at least make some kind of meat tax as a part of a general taxation for things against the environment.
About market solutions, that would help, but I believe it should come with a heavy pro vegetarian propaganda campaign too. There are several cultural shifts that need to be done IMO.
For example, being a vegetarian is probably a lot less expensive than eating meat already. A lot of people could have a better quality of life by simply making a vegetarian choice of diet. Sure, they might say that would make life unbearable, but I think most of them if they tried it for say, 2 weeks, would at least end up eating a lot less meat after that, which would be better for their pockets and the environment.
Full win win.
I mean if only because of the environment, they should at least make some kind of meat tax as a part of a general taxation for things against the environment.
About market solutions, that would help, but I believe it should come with a heavy pro vegetarian propaganda campaign too. There are several cultural shifts that need to be done IMO.
For example, being a vegetarian is probably a lot less expensive than eating meat already. A lot of people could have a better quality of life by simply making a vegetarian choice of diet. Sure, they might say that would make life unbearable, but I think most of them if they tried it for say, 2 weeks, would at least end up eating a lot less meat after that, which would be better for their pockets and the environment.
Full win win.
Shuddhasattva
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Well, we're definitely not on the same side.
Me Myself
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Simply because of the legal part? Take it as you may. I am no lawyer, but slaughtering a living being because you want to feel the yummies doesn´t feel like a basic human right to me, and I would think a society much better if it punished such action.
What I would agree with you is that I don´t think it should be outlaw for survival, but for pleasure? I do think it should be ilegal.
Making it illegal today wouldn´t work though. That would be worst than the alcohol ban. Maybe on some far away future. Hopefully.
Me Myself
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I think is not reasonable to put on the same plate the people who need to do so to survive and those who do not, because it is not the same at all.
Agreed. :yes:
I don't eat meat for the simple "yummies". I eat meat because I believe it is sound ethics for humans and for the planet.
Now, coffee on the other hand....that's definitely consuming for the "yummies".
Although not nearly as quickly as cannibalism would.
LOL
I was wondering when the "bloodthirsty" and "savage" comparisons were going to show up. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.
I was wondering when the "bloodthirsty" and "savage" comparisons were going to show up. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.
Me Myself
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How to Double Global Food Production by 2050 and Reduce Environmental Damage: Scientific American
So is that article wrong?
The article says a study of the university of Minesotta concluded that eating less meat would be better for the environment and that even a meatless diet would be even better.
So there really is no reason at all to eat meat for most of us.
Besides flavor.
So is that article wrong?
The article says a study of the university of Minesotta concluded that eating less meat would be better for the environment and that even a meatless diet would be even better.
So there really is no reason at all to eat meat for most of us.
Besides flavor.
Dingbat
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Stop murdering plants! Save Mother Earth! Eat a baby?
Me Myself
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It murders less plants to stop breeding cows that heavily. Also, if you truly believe plants suffer, you can minimize plant intake by eating more fruits and dried seeds and eating only the bare minimum plant intake for nutritional health or your survival.
Me Myself
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In any case, why I do obviously believe that eating animals for flavor is wrong in itself, this thread was more aimed towards the enviromental factor:
Eating less meat is one of the best things you can do for the enviroment. The less meat you eat, the better for the environment. If someone has a problem with the study of the Minnesota university, I am listening, but if it is doable and checking back with the first video in the thread, less cows is better for the environment and if we eat less cows less cows will be breeded. So... pretty much that.
Eating less meat is one of the best things you can do for the enviroment. The less meat you eat, the better for the environment. If someone has a problem with the study of the Minnesota university, I am listening, but if it is doable and checking back with the first video in the thread, less cows is better for the environment and if we eat less cows less cows will be breeded. So... pretty much that.
illykitty
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I agree. Eating less meat produces less pollution and is better in many ways. A lot more resources are used to raise meat than if it was to be consumed by us straight up.
And about there being too much cattle, there's only so much because of the demand by people of having this much meat. Do you think they would have this many if people didn't want this much? Of course not!
"Humane" slaughter sounds like a joke to me.
And about there being too much cattle, there's only so much because of the demand by people of having this much meat. Do you think they would have this many if people didn't want this much? Of course not!
"Humane" slaughter sounds like a joke to me.
illykitty
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Peace on Earth
by C. David Coats
Isnt' man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife, birds, kangaroo, dee, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers, groundhogs, mice, foxs and dingos by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed.
Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all these animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions like heart disease, kidney disease and cancer.
So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases.
Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals.
Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently and once a year sends out cards praying for Peace On Earth.
by C. David Coats
Isnt' man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife, birds, kangaroo, dee, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers, groundhogs, mice, foxs and dingos by the millions in order to protect his domestic animals and their feed.
Then he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them. This in turn kills man by the millions because eating all these animals leads to degenerative and fatal health conditions like heart disease, kidney disease and cancer.
So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to look for cures for these diseases.
Elsewhere, millions of other human beings are being killed by hunger and malnutrition because food they could eat is being used to fatten domestic animals.
Meanwhile, some people are dying of sad laughter at the absurdity of man, who kills so easily and so violently and once a year sends out cards praying for Peace On Earth.