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Viewers Horrified at Pole-Dancing Children on TV

Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Mycroft said:
here's nothing wrong with pole dancing at all, and to equate pole dancing to anything sexual as an intrinsic value of the thing is ridiculous.
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Except that it isn't, considering that's how it is used the vast majority of the time, which makes the cultural connotation obviously warranted and understandable. Might as well argue that a child doing a striptease dance isn't symbolically sexual in Western culture.
 
Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Quintessence said:
Except that it isn't, considering that's how it is used the vast majority of the time, which makes the cultural connotation obviously warranted and understandable. Might as well argue that a child doing a striptease dance isn't symbolically sexual in Western culture.
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But there are also a large majority of people who keep their clothes on whilst dancing around a pole. So surely discarding pole dancing because a few people took their clothes off whilst doing it would be as wise as discarding literature because a few people wrote some crappy books.

It's also not used for stripping the vast majority of the time it's just that you only ever hear about it being used that way, and so it seems that it's only used that way.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I'm not sure how you expected people to react when pole dancing has long been associated with stripping (burlesque, cabaret and the seedy sort of stripping, too). Even the pictures and videos that Google brought up of pole dancing classes mostly have women wearing skimpy clothing and gaudy stripper heels. It's a very erotically charged thing. If an adult wants to do it, fine, but I wouldn't want my young daughter doing it, just like I wouldn't have my daughter involved in child beauty pageants.
 
Sultan Of Swing

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Mycroft said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/viewers-horrified-8-year-old-7379461?ICID=FB_mirror_main

Personally I don't see what the problem is. There's nothing wrong with pole dancing at all, and to equate pole dancing to anything sexual as an intrinsic value of the thing is ridiculous.
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The girls are wearing hot pants and cropped shirts, and for kids, y'know, that's a little weird.

If you can't see the problem maybe you spend too much time on RF and you don't know what these dances are associated with.
 
Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Sultan Of Swing said:
The girls are wearing hot pants and cropped shirts, and for kids, y'know, that's a little weird.
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Yeah it is. I fancy that the parents got carried away 'because you're on TV'. Usually people wear leotards.

But are you going to let two womens' poor choice in wardrobe completely discredit the sport?

People let their kids do the can-can dance, and that was devised exclusively with a sexual aim in mind (at a time when flashing a bit of leg was tantamount to stripping). But views change.
 
Sultan Of Swing

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Mycroft said:
Yeah it is. I fancy that the parents got carried away 'because you're on TV'. Usually people wear leotards.

But are you going to let two womens' poor choice in wardrobe completely discredit the sport?

People let their kids do the can-can dance, and that was devised exclusively with a sexual aim in mind (at a time when flashing a bit of leg was tantamount to stripping). But views change.
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Well go you, trendsetter, be the pole-dancing champion you were born to be.

As for me, it's all about the twist.

 
Mycroft

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Most people who are outraged by it missed the fact that the segment of the show was actually posing the very question of whether pole dancing is too sexual for children, and that said children were there in evidence of the question.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Sultan Of Swing said:
Well go you, trendsetter, be the pole-dancing champion you were born to be.

As for me, it's all about the twist.

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And don't forget many of them Musicians were accused of heavily sexualized dances, such as Elvis' hip gyrations.
Anyone who thinks pole dancing is inherently sexual has never really watched pole dancing.
You may as well call figure skating erotic and sexual for their wearing of revealing clothing, mini skirts, or call gymnastics sexual because of different poses and positions can be interpreted sexually.
 
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RRex

Active Member
Premium Member
That is completely inappropriate, especially for young girls.

We already have huge problem with hypersexualization of society and the objectification of women and girls.

As long as we continue to indulge such practices, women's rights will not advance.

WE. ARE. NOT. MEAT. :mad::mad::mad:
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
What about gymnastics? Or aerobics? These can have very sexual connotations.

I think it depends on the dance itself, not the medium for the dance. Pole dancing can be sexual, but it doesn't have to be. Dancing in general isn't necessarily sexual, after all.

Besides, isn't ballet frequently something kids do? You know, the type of dancing where a skirt twirling up is a major component?

...with that said, I didn't watch this particular video, so I don't know if this dance in question was sexual in nature. If it was, that's absolutely inappropriate.
 
Deathbydefault

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
RRex said:
That is completely inappropriate, especially for young girls.

We already have huge problem with hypersexualization of society and the objectification of women and girls.

As long as we continue to indulge such practices, women's rights will not advance.

WE. ARE. NOT. MEAT. :mad::mad::mad:
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I don't see how this objectifies women at all.
Maybe I missed out on the hypersexualization of society, too.
 
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RRex

Active Member
Premium Member
It's disgusting. I don't care who does it.

Comparing it to gymnastics is ridiculous. Pole dancing is not extreme athletics.
 
Deathbydefault

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Well your opinion is nice and all, but why exactly shouldn't they do it?
You mentioned objectifying women and I would like to know how it does such.
 
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