lukethethird
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The idea of a God sacrificing for the sins of humanity is the epitome of poor taste. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. Godly scapegoats notwithstanding.
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"Violence Erupts Over Israeli Museum’s Sculpture of a Crucified Ronald McDonald"
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sealchan
Well-Known Member
Do you feel this is offensive?.
"A 2015 sculpture of a crucified Ronald McDonald — called “McJesus” by artist Jani Leinonen — created a stir over the weekend at Israel’s Haifa Museum of Art. On Friday, hundreds of Arab Christians clashed with police over what they claimed was an offensive piece of art that mocked their faith.
The sculpture has actually been in the museum since August, as part of an exhibit featuring the intersection of religion and modern culture. Even the government has lobbied for the museum to take down the supposedly blasphemous sculpture."
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Why?
Why not?
If this happened in the USA what would you feel should be done about it?
1. Nothing,
2. Take it down.
3. Other.
WHY?
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Some part of me (the Finnish part) feels that this sculpture captures the essence of a sort of fast food religious practice that entails pulling up to the church, ordering your forgiveness and then running by McDonald's on the way home to enjoy the rest of the day guilt free.
If this happened in the USA I would buy it, have an artist commissioned to create two companion pieces featuring the hamburglar on crosses on either side and maybe a chicken stylized after the logo for Chick fil a looking up at the cross and smiling like the devil.
Whoops, did I just say that?
I'm in a mood today it seems...
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Are you willing to give the same "not true" for non-Christians also?
Jumi
Well-Known Member
He seems to have a theme of incorporating iconic imagery with such things. Well, I'm not completely defending him either.
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Well he seems to like shocking people into thinking about consumerism. There's a brand in my country that always has this blond girl with a headscarf, he caused a small uproar previously by replacing it with a woman in a Saudi style Niqab. I had forgotten that it was this same artist... seems like he gets in the news with some kind of shock or another.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
This isn't a discussion about the logic behind the actions of Jesus (whom in my post which you quoted I never indicated was God), this was to explain in part, the portion of the reason why the crucifix is sacred.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Ah interesting....In your country do you guys even have fast foot joints out there like here in the states?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, and you misunderstood that. I tried to explain it, I doubt if his explanation will be any different.
Jumi
Well-Known Member
His portfolio says that he's an anti-consumerist. At least in my country religious people aren't scared of consumerism, they just go with it just like anyone else. Though he might have different ideas...
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Seems like the protestors both got and failed to get the point of the artwork.Do you feel this is offensive?.
"A 2015 sculpture of a crucified Ronald McDonald — called “McJesus” by artist Jani Leinonen — created a stir over the weekend at Israel’s Haifa Museum of Art. On Friday, hundreds of Arab Christians clashed with police over what they claimed was an offensive piece of art that mocked their faith.
The sculpture has actually been in the museum since August, as part of an exhibit featuring the intersection of religion and modern culture. Even the government has lobbied for the museum to take down the supposedly blasphemous sculpture."
source
Why?
Why not?
If this happened in the USA what would you feel should be done about it?
1. Nothing,
2. Take it down.
3. Other.
WHY?
.
.
Seems weird to me that they'd be outraged less at the commercialization of religion than they would be at an artist holding a mirror up to it.
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Yes, McDonalds is everywhere around here. There's Burger King, Taco Bell and various local ones that are the same. People eat too much fast food though not as much as the US.
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Well their own religion there isn't very commercialized so it wouldn't be as obvious to them as say some televangelist that's familiar to people in the US.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Apparently I was right, but thank you for your participation....
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Are you talking about joints like this?:
Sorry, couldn't help myself
Not sure but pretty stupid assumption if you asked me but no...
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
More importantly do you all have an in-and-out?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
So you lack a sense of humor when you make an error. I will try to remember that.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Actually no. The fact that he says he meant what he said. That you misunderstood what he said is still rather obvious.
You could have asked him if I got the explanation wrong instead of assuming that you got it right. Poorly asked questions will usually get you an answer of the same sort. Especially if a person has gone out of his way to earn some snark.
I think In & Out is just a west coast thing. I've never seen them in Michigan.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Yeah but it's slowly expanding eastward starting in the lower southwest...believe it or not it is also a Christian organization