Violent Indictment

[Sgt. Pepper]

America has never stood for liberty.

It was founded on slavery and expanded itself through genocide, and all the landmarks along the north shore of the St. Lawrence River called "Loyalist ____" stand in witness of how political dissent wasn't tolerated right from the beginning.

To be honest, I'm pleased to see the truth about America's true founding as you described it accurately rather than the perpetual fabricated stories that the United States of America was founded upon freedom, liberty, and justice for all, as well as upon Christian principles and it is a Christian nation. As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once noted, "Our nation was born in genocide." (quote source).

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

https://www-politico-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/09/15/trump-warns-of-problems-like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16632633094990&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/15/trump-warns-of-problems-like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911


Would violence really be expected and/or necessary in this instance? Or should Justice be able to play it's hand?





“If a thing like that happened, I would have no prohibition against running,” Trump said in an interview with conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt. “I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before. I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it.”

Hewitt asked Trump what he meant by “problems.”

“I think they’d have big problems. Big problems. I just don’t think they’d stand for it. They will not sit still and stand for this ultimate of hoaxes,” Trump said.

“That’s not inciting. I’m just saying what my opinion is,” Trump said. “I don’t think the people of this country would stand for it.”

Bluster and threat -- the bully's arsenal.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

The man has the mentality of a middle school bully.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What made wide swaths of America's backward backwater bumpkins so receptive to something so antithetical to what America was actually supposed to stand for? Yet ironically they're the ones who scream the loudest about patriotism and freedom.

It is truly sad, isn't it? The last 3 polls have Walker ahead of Warnock in the Georgia Senate race. Unbelievable that this twit, who can barely string 3 sensible words together, should be the pick for such high office. What is one to think? How does one even begin to make sense of it?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

https://www-politico-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/09/15/trump-warns-of-problems-like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16632633094990&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/15/trump-warns-of-problems-like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911


Would violence really be expected and/or necessary in this instance? Or should Justice be able to play it's hand?





“If a thing like that happened, I would have no prohibition against running,” Trump said in an interview with conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt. “I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before. I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it.”

Hewitt asked Trump what he meant by “problems.”

“I think they’d have big problems. Big problems. I just don’t think they’d stand for it. They will not sit still and stand for this ultimate of hoaxes,” Trump said.

“That’s not inciting. I’m just saying what my opinion is,” Trump said. “I don’t think the people of this country would stand for it.”

I do think, however, that his response shows him to be more fearful than he'd like us to know.

 

[The Hammer]

I do think, however, that his response shows him to be more fearful than he'd like us to know.

Bingo! It's Ego on the defensive.

 

[Truth in love]

The right wing insurrection Jan 6th is the big event to learn from.

I think the big take away is that many people mislabel things to vilify people they dislike vs deal in facts.
Riots where fine when done by the left, trying to storm the White House is fine when done by the left, but the right cannot fart without it being a crime.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I think the big take away is that many people mislabel things to vilify people they dislike vs deal in facts.
Riots where fine when done by the left, trying to storm the White House is fine when done by the left, but the right cannot fart without it being a crime.

Duck, deflect, evade, point-over-there...

Nothing bad is ever made better by saying, "well what-about ...."

 

[Stevicus]

https://www-politico-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/09/15/trump-warns-of-problems-like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16632633094990&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/15/trump-warns-of-problems-like-weve-never-seen-if-hes-indicted-00056911


Would violence really be expected and/or necessary in this instance? Or should Justice be able to play it's hand?





“If a thing like that happened, I would have no prohibition against running,” Trump said in an interview with conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt. “I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before. I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it.”

Hewitt asked Trump what he meant by “problems.”

“I think they’d have big problems. Big problems. I just don’t think they’d stand for it. They will not sit still and stand for this ultimate of hoaxes,” Trump said.

“That’s not inciting. I’m just saying what my opinion is,” Trump said. “I don’t think the people of this country would stand for it.”

I think much of it may depend on how solidly convincing the case against Trump can be made in the eyes of the people. Media rhetoric is one thing, but we also know that lawyers are still lawyers, and they'll look for any misstep, any technicality they can find. The best way to avoid any kind of backlash is for the top legal minds of the country to weigh in and unanimously agree that the case against Trump is airtight and flawless, without any holes, technicalities, or anything that can be questioned or picked apart.

This is a legal matter which most citizens probably wouldn't have the expertise to resolve, so if all of the experts stand shoulder to shoulder and agree completely on this, and it's presented as obvious to the people as a round earth, then a lot of "problems" (as Trump refers to them) could be avoided.

But if there's any perceived shadiness or (even worse) a lack of transparency, then such things will not escape notice and will be mentioned by the right-wing media.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What made wide swaths of America's backward backwater bumpkins so receptive to something so antithetical to what America was actually supposed to stand for? Yet ironically they're the ones who scream the loudest about patriotism and freedom.

Hefty doses of American Evangelicism, American anti-intellectualism and American Exceptionalism.

 

[Heyo]

But if there's any perceived shadiness or (even worse) a lack of transparency, then such things will not escape notice and will be mentioned by the right-wing media.

And if there isn't, they'll make something up.
You can't convince people who have invested so much in a lie with any amount of truth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know its frustrating, but Liberal are Americans too and we need to have some tolerance for their failure to be informed.

Oh my! The projection is strong with this one.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So was the Marxist BLM riots.

Big event to learn from.

You know that they were not Marxist. Or at least you should. If you think that is the case you sure do get confused very easily. Some of the leaders of the BLM movement claimed to be Marxist. That does not make the movement Marxist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is truly sad, isn't it? The last 3 polls have Walker ahead of Warnock in the Georgia Senate race. Unbelievable that this twit, who can barely string 3 sensible words together, should be the pick for such high office. What is one to think? How does one even begin to make sense of it?

But he was really really good at football!

Unfortunately in Georgia, like in Texas, football is a bigger religion than Christianity.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think the big take away is that many people mislabel things to vilify people they dislike vs deal in facts.
Riots where fine when done by the left, trying to storm the White House is fine when done by the left, but the right cannot fart without it being a crime.

Wait, this must be breaking news since the BLM protesters never even came close to the White House. Let me check CNN:

Hmm, that is strange. There is nothing. I have it! MSNBC!!

Nope . . . nope. still nothing. Maybe it is a conspiracy. In that case FOX News it is!

No, nada, goose egg, bupkis. No one is attacking the White House nor has that happened for quite some time.


Perhaps you are confused. Remember how you falsely accused the wrong party about being informed? During the BLM protests and even riots the White House was never attacked. In fact the White House ordered an attack on peaceful protesters that had not rioted one little bit yet:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2021/blm-protest-capitol-riot-police-comparison/

There was some activity near the White House , especially at night, but the White House was not attacked.

And it is rather odd that you cannot understand that an attempted insurrection is far more serious than a riot.

 

[Sand Dancer]

When these bumpkins, mainly Evangelicals, are raised thinking that the more they want something to be true, the more likely that thing is actually true, then they are primed for this sort of propaganda. That is why they also fall for MLMs and conspiracy theories more than other groups. "If it feels right or is emotionally satisfying, then it must be right," is the basis for Evangelical faith, so why wouldn't they extend that to the rest of their epistemology?

It's a real problem, and I don't know how we can fix it. If nothing else, rioters who come out for Trump will make themselves easy to arrest and lock up, so the rest of us are safer.

Sadly, evangelical kids have a hard time telling fact from fiction. I guess those things don't change as they get older.

 

[Revoltingest]

I say that Trump's prosecution, conviction,
& incarceration would be wonderful, &
peacefully accepted even by his fans.

 

[sun rise]

So was the Marxist BLM riots.

Big event to learn from.

Where is the proof that there were big riots that were organized by BLM and were on the scale of January 6th?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I say that Trump's prosecution, conviction,
& incarceration would be wonderful, &
peacefully accepted even by his fans.

Lemme just add another dozen or so winner frubes for that.

 

[sun rise]

I think the big take away is that many people mislabel things to vilify people they dislike vs deal in facts.
Riots where fine when done by the left, trying to storm the White House is fine when done by the left, but the right cannot fart without it being a crime.

I'm on the left and have never thought riots were fine and I'm not the only one.